Author Topic: Your hardware and StarForce (Read 1145 times)

gatt · « **on:** March 21, 2006, 05:51:43 AM »

Watch out ... http://www.techamok.com/?pid=297

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:19:20 AM »

This is old news that never gets old.

Maverick · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2006, 11:32:35 AM »

Good info, thanks.

Modas · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2006, 10:58:01 AM »

List of games that currently have starforce CP on them. Don't know if this list is complete tho

game list

gatt · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2006, 05:45:28 AM »

Hear hear ......

http://www.techamok.com/?pid=377

Ghosth · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2006, 08:24:49 AM »

Thanks for the heads up!

Crossed a couple of games off my list that I "Was" considering.

Wolfala · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2006, 08:24:54 PM »

So its a worm now? Skuzzy? Explain please how this could impact legit users and their systems.

eagl · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2006, 08:29:17 PM »

Suprised to see Lock-On in there... Too bad, that was gonna be my next purchase. Not now. Starforce and Sony products are on the banned list at my house. It's like if you caught a burglar in your house, would you ask him over for tea the next week after he got out of jail? Not likely.

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:29:06 AM »

We need a Big Brother icon.. no wait... This might do...

Skuzzy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2006, 07:19:50 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Wolfala
So its a worm now? Skuzzy? Explain please how this could impact legit users and their systems.

If you have a DVD burner, Starforce can prevent you from burning DVD's. many case of this have been reported, and the creators of Starforce deny it happens.
Thier answer is, "If you can bring us a computer which shows the problem they will fix it."
Keep in mind, they are in Russia, and no one has wanted to go the effort to ship thier computer to Russia just to prove a point.

Aside from the burner issues, it is software which does replace system files. As such, there should a warning on the box of any product using this software. There is no end of possible issues which can stem from the replacement of system files.

I think it is utterly irresponsible for a software company to use any copy protection scheme without warning its end users. Unfprtunately, the basic Windows user mentality is such that most people are ok with system files being replaced.

And it is not paranoid to want to protect your computer from invasive products which alter the way your computer was intended to work. I too have crossed off any Sony or Starforce protected content from my purchase list.

Vipermann · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2006, 08:35:46 AM »

Just one thing to consider. There are certain games which have issued patches that remove starforce from their games. Before you cross a game off check to see if they have a patch that removes the starforce protection.

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2006, 09:52:12 AM »

Skuzzy I wasn'y saying y'all are paranoid, I was saying maybe a lot of folks were not paranoid enough!

I'm somewhat skeptical in life, but things like this keep surprising me (and yet... at the same time, part of me is not surprised). My "Big Brother" comment was in regards to their worm-like programs infesting our computers without our knowledge, and the 'noid emoticon is the closest one that fit.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2006, 02:12:30 PM »

Hehe,..and I was not meaning to sound like I was hitting your post either. You just happen to remind me of a point I felt I needed to make, based on previous times when this subject has been brought up (I was called paranoid at that time).

The removal process of Starforce does not restore the original system files it replaces. Just FYI. When they stomp on them, they stomp on them.

gatt · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2006, 12:20:02 AM »

They now say that next SF versions will warn before installation. I wonder, what euro players will do. We generally cannot take the game to the store and have money back .... from now on I'll have to check the list of SF'fuc*ed games before buying ....

Kev367th · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2006, 01:49:22 PM »

Thought a new law in the US specifically states that if a piece software installs any other additional software, it must be listed on the packaging, and listed in the EULA.
Or is this still going through the 'law process'?