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Offline Mighty1

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« on: April 13, 2006, 08:32:33 AM »
This has been a really crappy week!

I just left our Admin building where I had just given the 3rd report of the week on Teachers looking at inappropriate sites online.

3 Teachers in 1 week losing their jobs.

What's bad is EVERYONE knows that I monitor all activity. Even the kids know what I do.

They just look at me like I've just done something wrong or that for some reason it's personal.

AAAAAARGH!

Stupid Stupid people!
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 08:50:10 AM »
Gawd... you gotta tuff job Mighty1. I don't think I'd have much fun being the Thought Police in an orgainization filled with liberals.

That's not a slam, BTW.. it's just how you are percieved by those who choose to ignore your employers policy on intardnet use in their sphere of control.. the work place.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 08:55:22 AM »
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Gawd... you gotta tuff job Mighty1. I don't think I'd have much fun being the Thought Police in an orgainization filled with liberals.



Well if more conservatives would read books besides the Bible, schools might not be so filled with liberals.

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 09:03:19 AM »
conservatives can read?
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 09:25:19 AM »
Mighty, just curious, what exactly does the school consider "innappropriate" websites?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 09:43:51 AM »
Well we have minor things like personal shopping during school (normally not a problem unless they do it all day) to major things like looking at Porn.

This week we had a Teacher trying to run a business (buying/selling on Ebay) even after she was warned to stop one who spends her whole day on myspace.com pretending to be a student and the last one who was looking at gay porn.

We try not to restrict to much so teachers can use the internet as a resource for their classes but all we ask is that any personal use is at a minimum.  During prep or before/after school if you want to check your bank account or look for the best deal on a vacation no problem. But if you start looking for a date or porn or do anything other than teach when you should be teaching then we have a problem.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 09:58:30 AM »
That seems reasonable.  I was wondering how you think these terminations will hold up.  Is everyone in the school system monitored and held to the same standard there , or are some people excluded?  Are you expecting the teacher's union to challenge the terminations?  Do you have those disclaimers in place when you boot up that say words to the effect of "This computer and software is the property of blah blah school system and any use outside of approved usage may result in discipline up to termination."  or some such?
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 10:07:19 AM »
Do you have those disclaimers in place when you boot up that say words to the effect of "This computer and software is the property of blah blah school system and any use outside of approved usage may result in discipline up to termination." or some such?

We have all students and employees sign agreements before they are allowed on ANY computer.

Is everyone in the school system monitored and held to the same standard there , or are some people excluded?

Yes all are monitored the same and so far there have been no exceptions.

Are you expecting the teacher's union to challenge the terminations?

No the Teachers Union normally support us since they helped us come up with the agreement that eveyone has to sign.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 11:40:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Mighty1
This has been a really crappy week!

I just left our Admin building where I had just given the 3rd report of the week on Teachers looking at inappropriate sites online.

3 Teachers in 1 week losing their jobs.

What's bad is EVERYONE knows that I monitor all activity. Even the kids know what I do.

They just look at me like I've just done something wrong or that for some reason it's personal.

AAAAAARGH!

Stupid Stupid people!


Isn't it wonderful when people come to the realization that the rules they voted for, agreed upon, are applied to them. It's all about academic freedom for them and no one else. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 11:44:52 AM »
yup.. and Mighty1 is absolutely correct.

"Stupid People".. and it's a good thing his school system has a convienient lever to pry 'em outta a job that has no business employing "stupid people".
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2006, 12:01:05 PM »
My wife comes from a very small town. It's so small, it doesn't even have a single traffic light...only a four-way stop in the middle of downtown.

One year, the gentry got together and decided they needed a town cop because every once in a while one of the school kids would egg a house or drive too fast down main street.

Well, the cop got right to work writing tickets and enforcing the laws. Most of the kids caught were the kids of the people who of course had voted yea to getting a cop in the first place since the small population didn't have much diversity in the "criminal element".

The gentry got back together and determined the  "crime spree" might actually have been "boys being boys" and decided they didn't really want a cop around after all. It was pretty annoying having to go pick their kids up all the time I guess.

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2006, 03:06:27 PM »
Im forever amazed at people who insist on privacy when using an employers computer, network and time.  Especially when its made very clear that the system logs all usage, traffic, emails and web sites.

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2006, 03:23:28 PM »
Mighty I had to fire 1 of my customer service girls the other day for the same stuff... I could honestly care less if they use the net to just mess around for a lil bit but I was begining to have huge problems with this girl playing on yahoo instant messenger all day. I had warned her 3 times to stop using it at work, mainly because it drains the bandwidth and I know she has plenty of work she can be doing but she thought it wasn't a big deal. Another problem I was worried about is that my IT people in north carolina would find out she's just playing on the net all day, that would make me look bad as a manager, so I just had enough of it and canned her. I don't understand how people will put internet usage above there work, she just lost 5 years of hard work and raises all becasause she wouldn't stop playin on the net...  god i hate people lol

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2006, 08:46:49 PM »
Why be frustrated, Mighty?  Sounds like you just did your school three big favors all in one week.  If they don't even have enough restraint to keep from looking at the Intardnet when they're not supposed to, you really gotta wonder what else they're doing when they should be teaching.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2006, 12:33:54 AM »
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Originally posted by Mighty1
Well we have minor things like personal shopping during school (normally not a problem unless they do it all day) to major things like looking at Porn.

This week we had a Teacher trying to run a business (buying/selling on Ebay) even after she was warned to stop one who spends her whole day on myspace.com pretending to be a student and the last one who was looking at gay porn.

We try not to restrict to much so teachers can use the internet as a resource for their classes but all we ask is that any personal use is at a minimum.  During prep or before/after school if you want to check your bank account or look for the best deal on a vacation no problem. But if you start looking for a date or porn or do anything other than teach when you should be teaching then we have a problem.


Curious.

How many of the female teachers surf porn?LOL
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