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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2006, 09:31:36 PM »
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side request has been submitted along with committment levels.  I used the old site to do it.... if you dont get it, let me know and i will email you with info.  Thanks:noid


Got it Mystic.

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2006, 12:04:54 AM »
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Nice image, where were you when I was making mine for the write up?  That is a nice pic.

Here is a squad-ops image I made a couple years back.  Simple, and easy.


That ain't half bad skernsk!
I like the texture effect you created there.
Gives it a nice worn, abused look!

BTW, I tried to reply to your PM but it said your
mailbox was full so it wouldn't go through.

Here's the message I tried to send:

Glad you like it skernsk!

I was inspired by the ones that were made up for the
old Warbirds European Micro Campaigns (EMC).

I'd be glad to make them up for future FSOs,
time and schedule permitting.
Gives me a chance to play around with Photoshop
some more. :D

Just try and give me as much notice as possible on
what subsequent FSOs will be based on so I can
start work on them without being rushed. :rolleyes:

Thanks again for the compliment. Enjoy!
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2006, 12:06:47 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2006, 03:14:38 PM »
Nice banner delta!

I had fun looking around the old CM posts. I started the Snapshots in the Spring/Summer of 2000 with the help of several CM’s and vadr (and old Warbird CM). Vermillion was head CM back then.

Squad Ops (we used to call them Tour of Duty) started in Aug of 2001. Work in earnest of that event started in June of 2001 when fdski wanted to bring over the S3’s (excellent event) from Warbirds. He and I went rounds and rounds about that and the design of Squad Ops. banana (who was the head CM after Verm) finally went with my idea of Squad Ops. The first Squad three Squad Ops were ran by myself and ghosth. It has been almost 5 years. I would venture a guess we have hosted about 60 to 65 Squad Operations. :) Numbers have grown from 80 players in the first few TOD's to 220 plus in the frames we have been having lately.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2006, 03:26:45 PM »
Okay daddog,

So if I count from August of 2001 until this month,
and assuming one per month, I would put the total at
57 FSO's.

That would make this one number 58.

I'm just looking for a starting number for the graphics.
Looks like 58 is a good starting number so I
edited the graphic accordingly.

David
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2006, 04:15:34 PM »
Nice work there, Delta. Just FYI... For that banner to be used on an HTC-sponsored website, you need to get the original artist's permission to use whatever images it contains.

AFAIK, you can use it on your own website (but that's not my call)... just be careful of any copyright lawyers sniffing around.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2006, 04:48:05 PM »
Ahhh, not necessarily Dux.

In most cases, for a copyright infringement complaint to be
pursued there has to be some harm or pecuniary damage suffered
by the plaintiff.  Otherwise, its really not an issue.

The use of these images in a banner ad in no way injures
or compromises the copyright holders ability to benefit from
their work.  On the contrary,  it is more likely to bring their
work to the notice of potential buyers, etc.

My use of those images clearly falls within the exceptions
outlined in the "Fair Use" clause of U.S. Copyright law.

While securing permission to use the work is preferred,
it is not required by law.  The exceptions were developed
as the result of case law evolution that understood that
to get such permission for such innocuous use would be
unnecessarily burdensome, especially when the party using
the work was not injuring the copyright holder or attempting
to benefit financially from the copyright holders work.

Feel free to read more here.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Thanks for the heads-up though Dux.
You can never know too much... :)

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2006, 05:53:33 PM »
Roger all that, Delta... it's cool with me. I'm just saying that if it goes up on the HTC site... this one... looking as if it's some kind of HTC-sanctioned artwork, then that's what the rules are. Not my rules... HTC's rules. The CMs have been down that road and have been spanked for it. :)

But I don't hink that applies for your own website. Like you said, it's just a heads-up.

Again... really nice job on the banner. :)
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2006, 06:19:25 PM »
58 sounds good to me! :)

Great banner. :)
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2006, 06:25:30 PM »
No problem Dux.

I'm not that familiar with HTCs rules on the matter.
Since its his website and his ***...I can understand such
a strict interpretation of the copyright laws.
Better to put a lid on everything than to try and police
what constitutes fair use.  Makes perfect sense to me.

I've been down this road before myself also.
I had my work infringed upon...it was outright stolen!

No modification no nothing.  It was being passed
off as original by the guy who took it.  I pitched
a ***** and even talked to a few lawyers
about it.  In the end I was basically told that
unless its costing me money or harming my reputation
that I should drop the issue.  Unless there is some
substantial harm I was told to try and work it out.
In the end I 'convinced' the guy to stop using my work.

But that was a case of outright theft.  It would be
the same as me buying a copy of one of Robert
Taylors paintings, having it professionally
reproduced, sticking my signature on them
and then selling them as my own work.

Having been stung by this kind of thing before
I made darn certain that I understood the law.
The last thing I would want to do is what was done
to me.

Now, having seen how the law is and how it actually
works I am wiser in the wyles of copyright
jurisprudence. :confused:

If it is an issue with HTCs sites and you intend
to keep using them I can always use screencaps from the
game or create some composite model photographs
of my own to use for future banners.  just let me know
if thats the case. :aok

P.S. Thanks daddog! :)
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2006, 10:29:57 PM »
I've heard from the following squads.  Sides will be announced Friday night along with Frame CO's.  

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MAW
~USMC~
Unknighted JG-26
65th FS ~Fightinnoodles
III./JG44 Night Hawks
880 Squadron
347th Fighter Wing
Unforgiven
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2006, 12:28:07 AM »
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I've heard from the following squads.  Sides will be announced Friday night along with Frame CO's.  

332nd Flying Mongrels
MAW
~USMC~
Unknighted JG-26
65th FS ~Fightinnoodles
III./JG44 Night Hawks
880 Squadron
347th Fighter Wing
Unforgiven
9GIAP
Rogue Squadron



but we havent heard from u.....How rude;)



and BTW delta(strac) you are the same arguementitive sweetheart you were
3 years ago, only worse.  Has Philly hit a new all time low.PPPPHHHHHFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTT TT:huh
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2006, 06:28:57 AM »
Really, I replied to each request.  Check your messages, maybe you spam filtered me.

At any rate, you've heard from me now
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2006, 09:59:18 PM »
Guys,

I plan to register my squad Friday morning.
Looks like I will be bringing a total of 14
including myself.

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2006, 01:37:59 PM »
Now that the sides have been choosen how about the objectives.
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