Il2 And Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3

[mars01]

I did if I wanted to play online.  IMO if you are going to compare AH and IL2 forget about stand alone.  That is the topic right?

OK here are just some of the threads:

http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/patching.htm

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/5581083643

[Bruno]

Really then why when I was setting up IL2 Pacific did I have to have the original IL2 and expansion BS installed?

The original Il2-Sturmovik was a dead end game. Once Forgotten Battles was released Il2-Sturmovik was dead. You didn't need to install the original IL2 to play Pacific Fighters. I assume you meant you  tried to install Pacific Fighters over Forgotten Battles.

To play Pacific Fighters as a stand alone game then all you needed to do was install Pacific Fighters. If you wanted to merge Pacific Fighters with Forgotten Battles you needed to have Forgotten Battles plus the Aces Expansion Pack. You could not install Pacific Fighters directly over Forgotten Battles with out the Aces Expansion Pack. The Aces Expansion Pack included most of the Ami (USAAF) planes.

You could have asked any one on this forum and they would have explained it.

IL2 update path is nothing like AH where I log in and it automaticall downloads and installs the update.

Well for FB/AEP/PF you just go to this web page:

Pacific Fighters

Then under 'Downloads' click on 'Game Updates' and pick a download sight. You can do that with AH as well btw..

Anyway, there is no sense in going back and forth over it. If you couldn't get the game set up and prefer AH in general then it is what it is...

[mars01]

I poured all over the IL2 web boards.  I spent days trying to get it to run correctly, enticed by the beautiful graphics, but never did.

I agree the graphics are way beyond AH, but I guess if it doesn't run that doesn't mean much.

I'm not trying to start a big battle but you are missleading people when you say install is trivial.

[LEDPIG]

I tell you one thing i'm struggling with the views in Ah i'll probably just get the tracker so i can see you bastards trying to kill me. Personally i love Mcfs 2 3 and Il2 they are two of the best combat games ever made. The graphics blow AH out of the water the damage and everything plus i think the flight models might be a bit closer to a real plane. Having flown real planes it feals about right. One thing i do like about AH are the tactics and gameplay. The people here are really good and cool and feel like i'm playing against some of the best pilots here. When i first came here i thought the graphics sucked i thought they are way to plain i mean the same ground terrain over and over again and no clouds or weather. iI thought the flight models are pretty stiff they don't fly as fluid as a real plane. One thing i did like was the guns and tracers they felt so cool to fire sometimes i just shoot just to watch the show, i wish i had a forcefeedback stick to feel the stalls gun vibration etc. Also Il2 has always been a pain to fly online for me i have dialup and i constantly get kicked off for high pings. AH is way easy to fly online all you do is loggin and theres always somebody on anytime no fuss, no headaches iv'e always had problems with multiplayer except here.

[Russian]

Not that long ago, a complete edition was released which includes every other IL2 release. If your system is up to the task, I recommend it. When comparing CFS3 vs. IL2, IL2 wins always. There are many planes to play with (over 100) and many servers to play online. Stop by SimHQ forums since there are more informed opinions unlike here.

Link to IL2-Complete.
http://www.gogamer.com/cgi-bin/GoGamer.storefront/SESSIONID/Product/View/001IL2C

[mars01]

LOL yeah here spend another $34 bucks to make the first 50 work LOL.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by LEDPIG
I tell you one thing i'm struggling with the views in Ah i'll probably just get the tracker so i can see you bastards trying to kill me.  

Hmmmmmmmm........... I guess I don`t understand what kind of problems you are having.
Map the views or buttons, assign them and you`re good to go. Very simple.

[Russian]

Originally posted by mars01
LOL yeah here spend another $34 bucks to make the first 50 work LOL.

What first 50$? This is a complete edition, no need for previous installs.

[Rooster]

I see, Mars01 has problems with a game and its sheit through and through. If 300 people are disco'd from the MA, its their computer problem tho.  

IL-2 and AH2 are great games.
 AH2 has a superior view system and a Main Arena hosting more people than anyother flight sim extant.
IL-2 has what may be argued better external visuals and damage model. With a superior component available for people who enjoy flying and creating WW2 Fighter Combat scenarios.

but hey, each to their own.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Dunno I loved AH from the start, found FB utterly boring. That about sums it up for me.

[Bruno]

Dunno I loved AH from the start, found FB utterly boring.

If you are talking about playing FB off line, then I agree. I find every off line game boring. On line in FB the same as every other flight game in that you just fly to the enemy and fight them.

90% of the time I play in the AH main now I am always thinking, damn I could be doing something else rather then chase toolshedders around. This maybe just cronic burn out but I know lots of guys who feel the same way. They may not play FB on line everyday like I do but they find AH 'boring' and attribute it to the general decline of the AH player base.

[Bronk]

I thought about not posting this because of the inevitable flame but here goes.

IL2 changes FM when enough BBS whine is posted.
AH  changes FM when HT finds a better way to model it. IE last update.


OK Flame away.




Bronk

[mars01]

Try re-reading the post Rooster, then try again LOLH.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Loves Il2/FB/PF/AEP inflight feeling.
Loves AH2 for the performance accuracy.

Graphic wise, can't compare because AH is not a boxed game.

[DREDIOCK]

You mean there are other WWII Slight sims??