Unbalanced Arenas . . . .?

[Sakai]

I reckon that is why the Stuka (it's also called the Ju-87) could not be allowed in this setup.  It completely unbalances arena play.

I'm sure none ever flew up there.  I mean, sure they sank some destroyers (Afirida and Bison specifically) and such early on, but probably they were made into Caramel Apple concessions or sleigh rides by 1941 to show the Norwegian children the benevolence of the Third Reich.  So, those are other good reasons to keep it out:  total dominance of the sky and the known difficulty with the Caramel Apples modeling and the lack of snow and St. Bernards with martini shakers to rescuse downed pilots.  I mean, we can't have Spitfires competing with airplanes whose Air Speed Indicators are sundials, or maybe Calendars.  Maybe we could simply put the Luftwaffe in little red wagons and place a flashing pink arrow over their location since the Stuka is too much plane for them.  

See, I'm being supportive, in my way, of all decisions like this made.  

Also, this setup would rock in wintertime--that Finnish type cloudy weather stuff over the Fee-Jords.     That's a serious suggestion.

Sakai

[1Duke1]

Geez Sakai.....was the Stuka ever mentioned as an addition???

Honestly my take on it would be that it would be pure fodder:aok

[Slash27]

Are you asking for the Stuka to be added or what here? What an oddball whine.

[StarOfAfrica2]

My "smartprettythang" translator seems to be a little fritzy, but I think his post might read something like this in English ............


"I've noticed that the Stuka (Ju-87) was left out of this setup and I was wondering why, since it doesnt seem it would unbalance the arena in any way.  Surely it would have been in use at the time, and I think it should have been added as an alternative to the Ju-88.  

Also, I think this map and this setup would be more effective (from a visual standpoint) if we had snow and more clouds to truly simulate the environment in which we are supposed to be fighting.

Thanks for your consideration in these matters."

Its rather difficult to translate as his sense of humor seems to have been hopelessly sprained, and his sarcasm filter is severly clogged.  Not to mention his lock on reality seems tenuous at best.  But then that seems common among patrons of this BBS.

[Sakai]

Originally posted by 1Duke1
Geez Sakai.....was the Stuka ever mentioned as an addition???

Honestly my take on it would be that it would be pure fodder:aok

You really think so?

Sakai

[Sakai]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Also, I think this map and this setup would be more effective (from a visual standpoint) if we had snow and more clouds to truly simulate the environment in which we are supposed to be fighting.

Thanks for your consideration in these matters."

Not "better" just an idea.  

The winter setups in the past, low foggy etc., were brilliant.

You guys are a tad touchy lately, no one here getting any?

Sakai

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Sakai
You guys are a tad touchy lately, no one here getting any?

Sakai

We're touchy?



I mean, we can't have Spitfires competing with airplanes whose Air Speed Indicators are sundials, or maybe Calendars. Maybe we could simply put the Luftwaffe in little red wagons and place a flashing pink arrow over their location since the Stuka is too much plane for them.


hhmm   "getting any" as in?????  Like medication or what?

[1Duke1]

Originally posted by Sakai
You really think so?

Sakai

Hmmm...am I missing something here???

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by 1Duke1
Hmmm...am I missing something here???

Heh.  Sakai is just funnin' with us.  He loves to use the Val as a fighter, probably is thinking along those lines with the Stuka.

Now that he mentions it, did the Germans employ Stukas in Norway after the 1940 occupation?  The only German bombers that I know were attacking the Murmansk convoys were He-111s and Fw-200s.  Would think that the Stuka lacked the range, but who knows?

- oldman

[Sakai]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Heh.  Sakai is just funnin' with us.  He loves to use the Val as a fighter, probably is thinking along those lines with the Stuka.

Now that he mentions it, did the Germans employ Stukas in Norway after the 1940 occupation?  The only German bombers that I know were attacking the Murmansk convoys were He-111s and Fw-200s.  Would think that the Stuka lacked the range, but who knows?

- oldman

Yes,

I know the Itais used it as a Naval patrol aircraft and that it was used in Norway early on (and as noted, had no idea if used later).

I just thought that since it was utilized on all fronts all war long and it could never be seen as an unbalancing entry, it ought to be included in almost all German setups.  I thought it was a simple oversight and Oldman being the guy to bang on for such, well . . .

Yes, I know I woud be the only Stuka out there and it would be flamed quickly, but geez . . . all the animosity . . . especially the intellectual quality of same . . . it's difficult to bear . . . I might be scarred for life . . .

Sakai

[Slash27]

I guess just asking for the Stuka to be added is to "intellectual" for you.

[Sakai]

Originally posted by Slash27
I guess just asking for the Stuka to be added is to "intellectual" for you.

That would be "too" my darling!

Try to keep up, that's a good chap!

Sakai

[storch]

with regard to the stuka I'd be opposed to the idea because I think the thing is that the allied fleets are getting sunk far too easily and the respawn over by B.F.E. thus effectively killing the game play.  the MOAB is just too damaging.  the set up has been marginally successful because of the plane set.  it has been a marginal flop because the CVs are always getting canned by the guys who show for the first time in the arena, up then sink the the CV then log................... but not before saying that the set up sucks because the flight times are too long.  gotta love the pervasive MA mentality of "if it's stationary pork it, if it moves flee from it".

[Sakai]

Originally posted by storch
with regard to the stuka I'd be opposed to the idea because I think the thing is that the allied fleets are getting sunk far too easily

Good point.

But how many MA guys would fly a Stuka?

Surely the Allied fleets facing Stukas is not as bad as the Tirpitz group facing Lanc Boxes?

Sakai

[Sakai]

Originally posted by storch
with regard to the stuka I'd be opposed to the idea because I think the thing is that the allied fleets are getting sunk far too easily and the respawn over by B.F.E. thus effectively killing the game play.

Also, can ack be made devastatingly effective over just those CVs or is it a theatre wide setting?

Thanks in advance,

Sakai