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Offline Ripsnort

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« on: February 09, 2001, 09:17:00 AM »
See?  I told you the year after Clinton is out of office is going to be much more interesting news!~

Incidently, Clinton is using donations for his Musuem to subsidized his N.Y. Penthouse..


From Time Magazine:
 
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The former wife of fugitive financier Marc Rich contributed
           about $400,000 to the Clinton Presidential Library, legal
           sources tell TIME. This revelation is likely to deepen
           suspicions of Congressional investigators looking into the
           controversial pardon given to Rich by President Clinton — that
           Denise Rich's financing of Clinton political and personal
           projects influenced his decision to give amnesty to her
           ex-husband.

           The sources said Denise Rich gave money to the library after
           consulting with Beth Dozoretz, a close Clinton friend and major
           Democratic fundraiser who discussed the pardon of Marc Rich
           with the president nine days before he granted it. The timing of
           the library contribution and its proximity to the pardon were
           not immediately obtainable.

           Denise Rich's generosity aroused the suspicion of Republican
           investigators from the moment Clinton pardoned her
           ex-husband of 1983 charges that he evaded $48 million in taxes
           and engaged in illegal oil sales with Iran. She gave over $1
           million to Democratic campaigns in Clinton's era and at least
           $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's U.S. Senate race as well as $10,000
           to the president's legal defense fund.

           Only her contribution to Clinton's library remained a secret.
           Officers of the $150 million project have refused to divulge
           their funding sources, but Denise Rich's lawyer, Carol Elder
           Bruce, fueled speculation when she told House investigators,
           as they recalled it, that her client gave an "enormous sum of
           money" to it. The GOP probers want to know if any of the
           funds originated with Marc Rich and asked Denise Rich to
           answer questions for a Government Reform Committee hearing
           Thursday.

           She refused to respond, invoking her Fifth Amendment right
           against self-incrimination. Reached Thursday night, Bruce
           declined to comment on the library gift, but noted a statement
           by her client's publicist which said Bruce told House
           investigators that Rich had "contributed generously to the
           party, the candidates and the presidential library."

           Dozoretz's name surfaced at the hearing in a Jan. 10 e-mail
           from a Marc Rich confidant in Switzerland to Jack Quinn, the
           former White House counsel who lobbied Clinton on the
           pardon. The message reports on a conversation with Denise
           Rich, who was visiting Aspen with Dozoretz, identified as "B"
           in the e-mail. "Her friend B ... got a call from Potus who said
           he was impressed by (Quinn's) last letter and that he wants to
           do it and is doing all possible to turn around" the White House
           counsels, it said. Denise Rich, it went on, "thinks he sounded
           very positive but that we have to keep praying."

           Dozoretz, who named Clinton a godfather to one of her
           children, could not be reached for comment. A source close to
           her confirmed the call from Clinton and said Dozoretz had
           raised the pardon issue with the president. The source insisted,
           however, that Clinton never told her he was trying to "turn
           around" his White House lawyers.

           Clinton has insisted his decision was based on the merits of the
           case and not on any friendship with Denise Rich, who had
           written him asking for the pardon.

Don't 'cha just love ol' Slick Willy?  

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »
Thats as sikening as it gets. Pay 2 million to the clitons to avoid paying 14 million to the people.

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »
Don't forget those "donations" for his library were all campaigned for on the taxpayers nickel while he was suppose to being presidential stuff, not securing his "legacy". Same goes for hillary as she campaigned for senator while having the USAF cart her fat arse around.

It's funny to hear the democrats slam Rich's lawyer on the news  

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2001, 09:34:00 AM »
Clinton is a scumbag.  He should be deported to Europe!

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2001, 09:37:00 AM »
Note Hillary's backing away very fast!

 
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"I know nothing about that," Sen. Clinton, D-N.Y., told The New York Post, while
                     repeating her denial that she ever had any role in the pardon that has sparked
                     outrage.

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2001, 10:33:00 AM »
The whole ordeal is perfectly legal.  Clinton acted within his powers.  Nothing will come of it in that regards.

I think it is a sobering revelation as to just what kind of power the president wields.. and how priorities can be skewed when there is no accountability (last week of final term).

Something needs to be evaluated as far as presidential pardons go.  I do believe that they should not be allowed between election day and inaugeration day.  Accountability should be required.

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2001, 10:45:00 AM »
There is a definite foul odor coming off that pardon... .

Denise Rich asserted her 5th amendment right not to answer because her answer may tend to incriminate her??? LOL

Where does a songwriter get her hands on a million dollars? Did the money come from a foreign country perhaps??? From her ex-hubby in Switzerland,perhaps?  Oh no, it would be against the law for the Clintons to accept donations of foreign money. Precisely.

Is it possible that Clinton would sell pardons???

Naah, he has way too much class for that.  Hillary too. Not.

This would really be amusing if the Clintons weren't so corrupt and contemptuous of the American people (and still here dragging us all through their sleazy lives)

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2001, 10:46:00 AM »
Actually, if there is evidence of using the powers of your office for personal gain, it is illegal.  Rich is out, no way it could be overturned, but depending on where money trail goes to and comes from, they may push pretty hard for prosecution.

I'd hate to see them trash the entire ability, but it's unlikely they could even if they wanted to.  More likely are ammendments making the accepted protocol required instead of just being a good idea (like justice department review).  I like the idea of having to be in before the vote.  Even if they're not up for reelection they're not likely to want to embarrass the party too badly.

Also brought up was the possibility of Senate overturning on 2/3 majority, though I'm a little uncomfortable with that one.

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »
Good point Deja.

..and Fatty.

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2001, 10:58:00 AM »
 

Within his powers, yes. But so is getting head in the white house, doesn't make it moral...
 www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,98756,00.html

As crooked as the day is long .... those that don't think so are of the same mind set that think O.J. is innocent..

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2001, 11:03:00 AM »
I agree 100% with Deja.  I don't care which President issues the pardons, it just sucks.

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2001, 11:10:00 AM »
Yeah,

Leave ot Klinton to abuse the office, again.

What a POS!

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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2001, 05:39:00 PM »
any squeakin about when bush pardoned reagan?

no didnt think so , hell he was only runnin his own private war. no bad there

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2001, 12:20:00 AM »
lessee here...

towd, the "up the revolution" socialist thinks it's a good thing Billy pardoned that GREAT humanitarian and poor guy Marc Rich?

Wait, maybe he just wants Rich to come home so we can REALLY tax him this time...

Ooops..Rich seems to be REAL GOOD at not paying taxes...

ROFLMAO!
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Now we get to the bottom of why Clinton pardoned Rich:
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2001, 12:34:00 AM »
I don't remember Reagan(or Nixon for that matter) leaving the country and having their woman plead for them with fistfull's of dollars.

Clinton is trailer trash, and that is a dis-service to those that live in trailers.