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Offline DiabloTX

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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2006, 02:45:17 PM »
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a
fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way,
preferably by burning.


U.S. Flag code

So is flag burning dignified or not?  In protest or in respect, burning a flag is burning a flag.  One could say one is making a statement and the other is part of ending, in a "dignified" way, a flag that has seen better days.

But in the end, it's still flag burning.

Just ridiculous that there is even a movement for an amendment to the constitution.


FTR - I am for the freedom to express one's displeasure by burning the flag...just don't let me catch you doing it near me.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2006, 03:17:53 PM »
I think burning the U.S. flag is fine up to 495 times.  roll a congressional representative or senator in a flag then light'm up.  it would be a noble deed and good start.  then perhaps the petulant lawyers of the republic could be next.  each wrapped in the corresponding state flag, they would no doubt aspire to the vacant seats irrespective of the smoldering.  :D
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2006, 05:07:41 PM »
Storch,

I don't think you need to do that quite so many times. I think by the time you get to 494, they will have caught on.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2006, 06:02:16 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't care if people burn flags or not but...

I have never been able to understand how burning them was considered "speech" ..... not even close.

lazs


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Full acceptance of the theory that the Amendment operates not only to bar most prior restraints of expression but subsequent punishment of all but a narrow range of expression, in political discourse and indeed in all fields of expression, dates from a quite recent period, although the Court's movement toward that position began in its consideration of limitations on speech and press in the period following World War I.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2006, 06:20:54 PM »
The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a
fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way,
preferably by burning.


I burnt a few for that reason... The days following 911, a few of my friends bought those little flags, and duck taped  them to the radio antennas on there cars.  After a couple of years they started to look ragged, so we took them down. They were just going to throw them away, which didn't make any sense. Instead i folded them up,  rested them on empty beer bottles, so they wouldn't touch the ground, and set them afire. I made my friends put there hands over there hearts until the retirement ceremony was over.

One thing i wouldn't mind seeing though... If someone hates this country enough to burn the flag, i'd let them do it, on the condition that THEY were wrapped up in it first.

Show some respect for the flag of the country you live in. If you don't like the politicians, vote them out.  Don't be a whining Pu@@Y, or an A@@ licking coward though.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2006, 06:26:36 PM »
actually, it's the flag code they want to enforce.. obstensibly; to prevent flag burning. But you can rest assured that'll mean fines, confiscation, jail time, attention from the FBI as being un-amerikan, a permanant note in your data base Korporate 201 File.... for flying a flag at night with out a spotlight, displaying it incorrectly (right to left/left to right, upside down..) having one sewn to the bellybutton of your pants or the motif of disrespect in clothing.. Bronk will do hard time for his Avatar.. etc, etc, etc.

Korporate Amerika uber Alles.
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2006, 06:41:39 PM »
I have no issue with people burning our flag.  So long as its followed by them renouncing their citizenship and boarding an airplane, moving to live in another country.

(Insert that video clip of the baseball player grabbing the flag away from those punks trying to burn it on the field.)
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2006, 06:45:24 PM »
I believe it failed.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2006, 06:51:09 PM »
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Neither are protected by the First Amendment.


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According to the ACLU the latter should be.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2006, 07:02:07 PM »
If the world worked correctly you would have the right to have burn a flag in protest as long as anyone who saw you had the right to kick your bellybutton for it.
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2006, 07:28:57 PM »
What kind of fool lives in a country they despise enough to burn it's national symbol? If you are that disgusted with where you live then surely you can find a place more to your liking. You want to to burn the flag go ahead. Being stupid isn't always against the law.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2006, 07:54:13 PM »
If it's my flag, I can do what I want with it, should burning a picture that I own of the President be illegal as well?.

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2006, 08:09:27 PM »
Anyone has the right to burn it in protest.

I have the right to think they are jackaxes for doing so.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2006, 08:23:53 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't care if people burn flags or not but...

I have never been able to understand how burning them was considered "speech" ..... not even close.

lazs


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These people are making a statement about dissatisfaction with their government.
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2006, 08:28:49 PM »
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Bronk will do hard time for his Avatar..  



I knew it... they are out to get me!

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