Anatomy; NoHo gang war (pics)

[lukster]

Originally posted by lazs2
ooz.. I would rather have a mexican chick.... girls that look like 12 year old boys don't do it for me.

I allmost agree with sandie on this one.... those who would become addicts will no matter if drugs are illegal or not.   All making drugs illegal does is boost the profit and prestige to the point that gangs and criminals are made.

What would the gangs do if drugs were legal?   They couldn't feed off each other... not for long anyway.  Prostitution would be the only draw they could use.  State allready killed illegal gambling with the most gambling anyone has ever seen... all state and federal sponsored... and all legal with no room for the gangs in it.

lazs

I've wondered about this also. I suspect that some gangs would become more aggressive to ensure their survival. Home invasions, street robberies, and car jackings might soar. At least that would force the issue in dealing with the gang problem. The result might be loss of liberty for all though.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by nirvana
Good story XMarine.  MORE!

I'm very sad to report the "beef" has been squashed, Lentoe, Blacky and 2 others have succeeded in  taking three blocks.

This came from the homies in the "monkey box" (Jail) who told the Locos to chill. As I was told, the chill order came straight from La M (Mexican mafia). Every Hispanic gang follows the rule of LA M under penalty of pain, they rule the jails & prisons... where gangs are separated by race, not geography.

If the M had their way, the streets would reflect locked up gang culture; M vs BGF (Black Gorilla Family) Vs Perkerwoods (Skinhead whites).. all minor street squabbles like this (between fellow hispanics) would be almost non existant.

La M basically gave them these 3 blocks since the locos that used to live here were summarily evicted by the City of Los Angeles...

[BlkKnit]

Grew up in Kern county...South Kern

A friend of sorts...well a schoolmate was killed by the Mexican Mafia (Or so it was said)  Ran him over like 6 times.  Arvin, Lamont in south kern, Delano, Mcfarland and Wasco in the north.  Hate to see it nowadays.  Left there in 82.

xmarine, you are police right?  feel like your in the movie Colors?

Always seemed strange, knew many mexicans and mexican-americans growing up.  You could never fit in if you were a white boy, but you could be friends outside of the family / neighborhood societies.

Those boys moved in and took 3 blocks?   Sounds like it was all planned from the start to me.  Its a subculture that has its own laws....kinda scary actually.

[lazs2]

I am white and I fit in just fine with the mexicans I am around... some of em are 2nd generation Americans and some barely speak english.... all of em have families and work for a living.

The ones you guys are talking about are just scum that no person of any race would want to be around much less get along with.

lazs

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by lukster
The result might be loss of liberty for all though.

Yup, and the current 'war on drugs" has not erroded any of the bill-of-rights so far.

[BlueJ1]

This is a great post Marine! Living in suburbia and the middle of no where I know very little of this. So far I learned alot. I just want to make sure I got this right...


So all these Mexican gangs fall under the rule of the LA M.The smaller gangs fight eachother over drugs and territory. But when the LA M says knock it off they listen.

Is the LA M made up of the smaller gangs and theres just a few leaders? Or are they just a very large gang with lots of power?

Does the LA M ever organize the smaller gangs and fight the BGF or the skinheads?

[AWMac]

You gotta be kidding!!!!!





Asian babes are hot!!!






Mac

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by AWMac
You gotta be kidding!!!!!





Asian babes are hot!!!






Mac

Well, flat...but flexible!

[Ripsnort]

.

[BlkKnit]

Originally posted by lazs2
I am white and I fit in just fine with the mexicans I am around... some of em are 2nd generation Americans and some barely speak english.... all of em have families and work for a living.

The ones you guys are talking about are just scum that no person of any race would want to be around much less get along with.

lazs

yes, i knew many like that too, and had black friends the same way.  Didn't mean to generalize.

And the ones who were not part of long time american families were the easiest to be friends with.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lazs2
so sandie.... why isn't the guard called in to the ghetto areas of every city where gangs rule?

all they would have to do is hit every one of em all at the same time right?  I mean... we are talking about crimes against the citizens and tyranny and illegal activities as a way of life right?  we are talking war zones right?

If even 1% of the gun owners all refused to turn in their firearms or even 1% of Americans just sent in their tax forms with a big F you scrawled across em... what would the feds do?  

Same as they do to the gangs.... ignore it or go after the easy ones.

and.... ask for more money.

lazs

WRT the guard, it's not about might. It's about will.

The cops have the will, but lack the might. The guard has the might but lacks the will.

[lazs2]

Ok... then it all amounts to the same thing doesn't it.   I guess I am just being pragmatic and a student of history here.

Governments only rule by the consent of the people they rule.  The gangs do not want to be ruled.   The government knows that a show of force will cause them more harm than good.  They are powerless but want to preserve the illusion of power so they stay away.

Gangs are allmost universally despised in this country but an incursion by the government to stamp em out would meet with hordes of liberals and the media whining and crying and showing government atrocities and abuse of power against women and children and innocents and the racial card would be top of the deck.

They can't even stop know thugs and violent criminals who are even slightly organized.... they can't even enforce the immigration laws.

They can only be effective against groups of one or two or a church full of children.   even then...it often bites em on the butt.

lazs

[storch]

Originally posted by ChickenHawk
Personally I blame West Side Story.

oh no it goes back much further.  it goes all the way back to the three penny opera.

[storch]

Originally posted by lukster
I've wondered about this also. I suspect that some gangs would become more aggressive to ensure their survival. Home invasions, street robberies, and car jackings might soar. At least that would force the issue in dealing with the gang problem. The result might be loss of liberty for all though.

that problem was solved here in my beloved Florida with sensible legislation.  the gist of the law to which I refer is if you feel in any way threatened and fear you are about to suffer bodily harm as you go about your business the use of deadly force is an acceptable deterent.  contrary to the liberal doom sayers' predictions of turning our communities in to the "wild, wild west" what we now have is very polite people.  the thugs say please and excuse me, there are no "road rage" incidents and such.  once again proving the wisdom of the the adage that "an armed society is a polite society"

[lukster]

I agree Storch, Florida led the way in this and proved to be a very good example. However, gangs still find illegal drugs to be very profitable in Florida and most other places in the US. Take that source of income away and many will find their money somewhere else. Am I suggesting we allow the the illegal drug trade to placate the gangs? No, but we should be prepared to deal with them if we take it away.

I have mixed feelings about decriminalizing illegal drugs. I'm afraid many more kids will ruin their lives that wouldn't otherwise.