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« on: July 10, 2006, 12:13:12 PM »
Rudy for president?

By Robert Novak
Sunday, July 9, 2006

WASHINGTON

Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

The former mayor of New York was on top of last month's national Gallup Poll measuring presidential preferences by registered Republicans, with 29 percent. Sen. John McCain's 24 percent was second, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich third at 8 percent. National polls all year have shown Giuliani running either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind.

Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his positions on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.

Democrat Lieberman

Supporters of Sen. Joseph Lieberman promise he will continue as a member of the Senate Democratic Caucus even if he loses the Democrat primary in Connecticut Aug. 8 and is elected as an independent.

Lieberman's decision announced last week to seek petitions to give him an independent ballot position probably helped Democrat businessman Ned Lamont's anti-war primary campaign. Although Lieberman's support of President Bush on the Iraq war is not popular in Connecticut, he would be heavily favored in a three-way race against Lamont and Republican former state Rep. Alan Schlesinger.

Wooing Hispanics

Presidential adviser Karl Rove and Sen. Sam Brownback, two conservative Republicans who favor a guest-worker program for immigrants, will address the left-wing Hispanic advocacy group La Raza in Los Angeles this week.

La Raza was active in increasing participation in nationwide work stoppages and demonstrations April 10 after the House passed a tough border-enforcement bill. La Raza in Spanish means "The Race."

Trial lawyer politics

Although it attracted no news media attention, a subcommittee hearing of the normally bipartisan House Financial Services Committee erupted in partisan furor June 28 when Republican Rep. Richard Baker of Louisiana proposed controls on lawyers engaged in securities litigation.

Baker's subcommittee focused on the recent federal indictment of the Milberg Weiss Bershad & Schulman law firm in connection with class-action lawsuits. The firm in recent years has contributed $2.78 million to Democrat candidates and $22,000 to Republicans.

The Financial Services Committee's top two Democrats -- Barney Frank of Massachusetts and Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania -- vigorously objected to a federal judge testifying about current defendants in a federal prosecution. Vaughn R. Walker, chief district judge for Northern California, gave the subcommittee his views on the indictments and Baker's legislation.

No dirty tricks

Independent, pro-labor candidate Bill Scheurer remained on the ballot after last Monday's deadline without challenge in the Chicago suburban congressional district where freshman Democrat Rep. Melissa Bean is a priority Republican target for 2006.

It had been widely expected that state House Speaker Mike Madigan, the Illinois Democrat chairman, would challenge Scheurer's collection of the necessary 14,000 petition signatures for ballot access. Scheurer had filed a lawsuit alleging dirty tricks by Madigan and other Democrat leaders.

Bean was the most spectacular Democrat winner in the 2004 elections with a victory over Phil Crane, the senior Republican member of the House.

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2006, 12:31:45 PM »
IIRC, Guiliani's pre-911 opinion polls in NYC weren't all that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2006, 12:34:32 PM »
I can't remember for sure, but didn't Guiliani get TIME'S man of the year award after 9/11?

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2006, 12:39:34 PM »
Yep he seemed to rise to the occasion. That's a good trait to find in a person, that they can not just cope but thrive and do the right things in high levels of stress / pressure.

Why in the heck did they even include Newt's name in the poll after the crap he was involved in??? :huh
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2006, 12:50:03 PM »
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Why in the heck did they even include Newt's name in the poll after the crap he was involved in??? :huh


I've listened to a few interviews with Newt in recent months. I would definitely consider voting for him.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2006, 12:57:15 PM »
I'm sure since it's Novak doing the reporting, that it's absolutely true.

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 01:01:55 PM »
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I've listened to a few interviews with Newt in recent months. I would definitely consider voting for him.


I hate to ask but do you have any links?   I wouldn't mind reading some.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2006, 01:07:47 PM »
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I hate to ask but do you have any links?   I wouldn't mind reading some.


I heard him on NPR. They might have some links there.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2006, 01:10:07 PM »
Thanks sir.  <>   I'll peruse tonight.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2006, 01:32:52 PM »
I guarantee that if Rudy runs, we will be seeing a lot more of the pictures of him in drag.

I also think that his decision to bring on Bernard Kerik as NYPD commissioner is going to end up biting him in the arse on the national level.  Presidential nepotism is one thing....but I don't think pre-Presidential nepotism is looked upon favorably by the average voter.


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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 07:05:56 PM »
Rudy would make a nice Democrat candidate...oh wait...he's in the GOP
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2006, 07:50:25 PM »
I would think Democrats and those in the "center" would respond well to rudy.  It might be refreshing to see democrats look past a republicans party membership and actually look at the issues.  They might like him.

On the flip side the base of the GOP might not respond to him at all unless there's a total fairy running on the liberal ticket.

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2006, 07:53:44 PM »
Compared to who has been running for president and who we have now, Id vote for rudy right away
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2006, 08:02:15 PM »
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It might be refreshing to see democrats look past a republicans party membership and actually look at the issues.  


ahem... like the Governator?

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2006, 09:24:03 PM »
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ahem... like the Governator?


Yup,  totally MT.  If somone can get elected in NY or CA running as a  republican they have to appear as sheep in wolves clothing to the other side and completly fool the wolves at the same time.  It will be interesting to see after all the distain that GWB has brought on the GOP from his initial election.