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Offline Eagler

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« on: October 31, 2001, 08:24:00 AM »
Honorable President
William J. Clinton
Harlem
New York, New York

Dear President Clinton:

On behalf of the Republic of Iraq, its Baath party and the peoples of our Arab nation, I extend my sincere thanks to you.

We are grateful for what you did for us during the past eight years.

After the imperialistic invasion into the Arab nation and the House of Our People by your predecessor, George H.W. Bush, I was given for dead. My days on the earth were numbered. The Iraqi Republic was said to be destroyed.

But after your success in 1992, and again in 1996, you have helped to renew this great nation of which I remain the great leader.

I want you to know that I understood you had to, as you say, "look tough," with occasional bombings, the "embargo," and so forth.

But, Allah be praised, you spared me after you discovered my attempt in 1993 to assassinate George Bush during his trip to Kuwait.

Again, it was you who intervened to make sure your evil CIA and FBI did not fully investigate our first attempt on the World Trade Center in February of 1993 – on the anniversary day your predecessor began his "ground war" against the people of the Arab nation.

When our intermediary friends from the great land to the far north came to me and said it would be helpful to you if I rattled the cage, if I acted the role of the madman, and if you could strike back at me with pinsalamanders – so that you could appear victorious among your foolish people – I did not really believe your sincerity.

I did not believe you would be a friend and faithful. I was wrong. But I did as requested, and time and again, at critical moments in your administration, I made threatening moves or actions. And time and again, you struck back. Always you looked good, strong, tough. We laughed in Baghad as your silly Pentagon people hit our $10,000 radar stations with $500,000 cruise missiles.

You were unlike any American I have ever known. You were honorable. You lived up to your promises made through our great friends in the north.

I can report to you today that the Iraqi Republic, our Republican Guard and the great army of the Arab nation are as strong as they were before the imperialistic Gulf War of Mr. Bush.

We are strong and, thanks to you, Mr. Clinton, your country is weak – much, much weaker than it was before the imperialistic war of Mr. Bush. Today, his son cannot make me a target of his father’s revenge because the Pentagon of his father does not exist. This all, thanks to you, great leader.

We have learned to fight fire with greater fire.

When your U.N. and State Department demanded us to end our weapons programs, you advised us, through our friends from the north, to hold firm. We did so.

As we threw your inspectors out of our country and rebuilt our programs to make Iraq a nuclear power as great as America and Israel, you allowed the embargo to be lifted.

Our oil, the gift of Allah, was freed because of you, and billions of dollars flowed into my accounts. You made this possible. It was your decision alone. We shall not forget your benevolence.

Many here in Baghdad, in the Baath party, could not believe that if we threw your inspectors out, we would actually be rewarded. But I told them to trust our friends from the north, that you were a man of honor.

When September 11 occurred, our great people knew that once again the House of Islam, the Baath party and the Arab nation have risen once again. It was through the mercy of Allah, his benevolence, and you, great leader, that we accomplished so much in so short a time.

Your brother in peace,
Saddam Hussein
President of the Republic of Iraq
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Christopher Ruddy
Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2001
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2001, 09:45:00 AM »
<scratches his head> What?   :confused:   :confused:

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2001, 11:46:00 AM »
Maybe that's why Americans like to bomb everyone "to stone age"? They think people down there are happy being killed?

Eagler, in fact - many nations must thank Saddam for his very existance. In case the Iraqi regime fails - the whole Middle East will be in flames in a matter of hours. Europe will be shaken by Kurd refugees with their obvious attempt to support Kurdistan that will include large parts of Iraq, Turkey and some other countries. Things will probably develop according to Yugoslavian scenario, but involving more countries, some of them NATO members.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2001, 12:33:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Maybe that's why Americans like to bomb everyone "to stone age"? They think people down there are happy being killed?

Eagler, in fact - many nations must thank Saddam for his very existance. In case the Iraqi regime fails - the whole Middle East will be in flames in a matter of hours. Europe will be shaken by Kurd refugees with their obvious attempt to support Kurdistan that will include large parts of Iraq, Turkey and some other countries. Things will probably develop according to Yugoslavian scenario, but involving more countries, some of them NATO members.


 Now that's an interesting opinion, completely rediculus, but interesting none the less.  Boroda, when we finaly get rid of ole Sadam 1/3 of Iraqies will dance in the street, another 1/3 will be mad at us for not doing it 10 years ago and the other 1/3 will be dead so it wont matter what they think.

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »
Udie, what you said is true. At school there was a guy in my class who's father was an Iraqi communist. They simply hated Saddam. In mid-70s he slaughtered communists. But I assure you - many people in Iraq indeed support Saddam.

I mean that Saddam's regime guarantees that Kurds will not have their own state. If such a state will appear - it will be a great disaster in the Middle East. I don't have an opinion about this problem, but it exists, and has to be treated as an important issue.

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2001, 01:47:00 PM »
is this the enquirer or something eagler? come on - this nonsense is just embarrassing.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2001, 01:47:00 PM »
So Boroda, you said you have no opinion on the Kurd matter, right?

Then just who are you quoting with the statement: "If such a state will appear - it will be a great disaster in the Middle East." ?

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2001, 01:48:00 PM »
What?? It's kewl to create a state for Jews, restore the Palestenian one; or at least a sembalance of it, but not let the Kurds have theirs??

Sheesh.

At least 1/3 of Iraq should be partitioned and given to the Kurds. They've earned it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2001, 01:49:00 PM »
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Originally posted by mrfish:
is this the enquirer or something eagler? come on - this nonsense is just embarrassing.

 :)

Enquiring minds want to know ...
Is a bit tard but holds a bit of truth too.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2001, 01:52:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Sunchaser:
So Boroda, you said you have no opinion on the Kurd matter, right?

Then just who are you quoting with the statement: "If such a state will appear - it will be a great disaster in the Middle East." ?

Turkey will never let it happend. They are and have been bombing them into a stone age for over 10 years now.
As long as turkey is NATO, we're in stalemate...

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2001, 02:10:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
What?? It's kewl to create a state for Jews, restore the Palestenian one; or at least a sembalance of it, but not let the Kurds have theirs??

Sheesh.

At least 1/3 of Iraq should be partitioned and given to the Kurds. They've earned it.

 toejam we should let them move out to west Texas after what we did to them at the end of the gulf war.  We stuck those poor people out and let sadam slaughter them  :(  Even though I was only 21 at the time I could see plain as day what we (the west not just US) did to them.

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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2001, 02:23:00 PM »
I have to agree with Boroda.

 Saddam's Irak is a secular state that is a counterbalance to fundamental Iran - which hates us. That is how we always viewed it and why we did not dare eliminate Hussein.

 Yes, 2/3s of the people would rejoice if Saddam got killed, but they would be islam fundamentalists who hate us and who would join with Iran in a blink of an eye.

 The other 1/3 rejoicing would be Kurds who would attempt creating their state which would be a major blow to our only true muslim ally - Turkey and many some other countries in the region.

 Irak was always our friend. We supported them in Iran-Irak war. (Actually at that time I personally lived in USSR and Iran was our friend   :))
 He did kill communists which we approved.

 US did a very stupid thing getting into obligation to defend Kuwaiti's ownership of oil from Iraq (or Saudi's for that matter). Kuwait is not a democracy. It has a very small population that is paid welfare (93% holding government jobs) by the sheikhs who own the oil. The regimes in those countries are not as opressive as in Afghanistan but they are quite oppresive and even less democratic then Irak. Hussein is at least called president and they may have some kind of election/representation and women are not nearly as opressed there if at all.

 Iraq claimed that Kuwait was actually a breakaway province grabbed by bandits who call themselves sheiks (aren't they?) and that oil revenue would be better used to support iraki people rather then sheiks's harems and luxuries. While Irak's occupation was called "civil war" by them, it was hardly even that - more like reposession.
 It is not the most founded or fair claim - outright rediculous probably - but historically we let our many unsavory friends get away with much more - including selling drugs to us.

 There was no danger to us oil interests because Irak would have sold us the same oil for the same price. Why do we care if it is owned by a sheikh or property of Iraki government?

 If ignoring the occupation was not an option, US should have used diplomacy to persuade Iraq that it would interfere militarily.

 Unfortunately the historical precedent was not in our favor because in most conflicts after 1953 US came back with it's tail between it's legs. Our friends - Israel, central american governments, China etc. are free to ignore US requests and warnings and we do not get mad at them, so Iraq has the false sense of security when it discarded our demands and threats.
 Then we hit them like a ton of bricks which was a huge surprise to them. They were obviously not prepared for our attack and hardly fought back.

 To most muslims it does look like interference into their (muslim) local affairs.

 We also provoked Kurds to uprising during the war but then abandoned them to slaughter because we could not support them. First because we do not give a sh#t about them and most of them are religious fanatics anyway with no particular love for us. Second, because we did not want to destabilise Turkey, Iran and former Soviet Union states.
 Seriously, if we cared about kurds, why would we not have invited them here? We have plenty of land available and could use some more people who would appreciate our way of life.

 So now Irak knows that we are seruous about defending Kuwait and not likely to attack it again. If it does, we would blast it again. So why do we stay there and intefere with Irak's life? It does look like we do that just to show our strength to the arab world.

 And do not give me bulshit about Saddam being dictator and opressor deserving to be removed and us doing that to promote democracy, etc.

 Our friends Kuwaitis and Saudis, Chinese and Russians, central americans and africans are all dictators and opressors and we are not bombing them or enforcing no-fly zones.

 To all the world we do look like a bully who picked up an easy target.

 Saddam is walking a tight rope. The muslim fundamentalists are bigger danger to him then they are to us. Only perceived enimity of US towards him allows him to appear in the lead of opposition to US and makes it akward for Iran-backed fundamentalists to oppose him. So we are strengthening his rule with constant harassment.
 He has no real reason to harm US and no need to - there are plenty of people to do that, most of them are his enemies. His is more then happy to let us slaughter each other while he is staying neutral.
 Even if he had a reason to hurt us, he would not risk acting against us because if he really pisses us off he can be traced and can be removed from power/killed and Iraki's infrastructure hurt - unlike Taliban/OBL's. Hussein has no desire to hide in a cave/mosque like Taliban.

 US should have been consistent in dealings with other countrties. Either we do not deal with dictators or we deal with them and not interfere into their business and internal struggle.

 All those dictator guys may not be very nice characters, but they could have been the most valuable allies in our struggle against terrorism. Unlike stupid americans whi created Taliban, they know very well what kind of double-edged thing it could be. And they are very efficient. There was no terrorism/drug trade in Russia and China in their more authoritarian days.

 miko

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2001, 02:29:00 PM »
!!!!   ????

Yer kiddin; right?
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2001, 02:33:00 PM »
Sunchaser: So Boroda, you said you have no opinion on the Kurd matter, right?
Then just who are you quoting with the statement: "If such a state will appear - it will be a great disaster in the Middle East." ?


 Boroda did not mean that it will be a psrsonal disaster for him if Kurd's state is created. He just stated an obvious prediction that it would cause a major war there. It is pretty common to refer to wars as disasters, so Boroda got confused with his wording. You have to remember that Boroda is not a native english speaker and is drunk most of the time     :)

   
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
At least 1/3 of Iraq should be partitioned and given to the Kurds. They've earned it.


 Only part of the kurds live in Irak. A lot of them live in Turkey which has a lot of problems with kurd's terrorism - not to confuse with Iraki kurds "freedom fighters". A lot of them live in Iran and other countries.
 They do not want just a piece of Irak. They want to organise a pretty large state carved out of those and neighbouring states before they can start killing each other (like afghans) and attacking even more states around. They would probably join jihad against US like the grateful afghanis are doing now.

 miko

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2001, 02:34:00 PM »
good info Miko

too bad BushSr wasn't able to finish what he started, not eliminating Saddam per say but stabilizing the region with our allies, with the elections handing the ball to slick who proceeded fumble & punt for the next 8 years middle eastern respect for the US.
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