Ok, I have....
reinstalled the INF files for the motherboard
reinstalled directX 9c
reinstalled the original driver for the card
reinstalled the game.
crash, crash crash.
installed the latest driver (yeah I know they're unstable, but nothing else had worked).
I am back to the blue splash screen with the picture of the p51/109 flashing up intermittantly, when the the clipboard comes up, it is normal, I navigate to the video settings screen that is normal, go back to the original screen the clipboard is whited out, using the tool tips I navigated off line, the graphics are very off, and the frame rate indicator is flashing on and off, like the p51/109.
hmmmm..
Sorry forgot to mention, Dell 8400,