Author Topic: Building my 1st PC... (Read 2640 times)

SuperDud · « **on:** July 26, 2006, 05:06:34 PM »

Hey all,

I've decided I'm going to attempt to build my next PC myself. I can pretty much replace sound cards, memory, etc. If given all the parts to put together, I could do that. But My problem is I'm not sure whats compatible with what.

For instance I bought this tower recently:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811209018

I was told next to buy my processor and motherboard. I have no idea what will work with what? I was looking at this combo:

processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117071

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131578

Would that combination work? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

OOZ662 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:09:38 PM »

Your links were truncated.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811209018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819117071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131578

The CPU and motherboard won't work. The MB is a Socket T (LGA 775) and the CPU is a Socket 771.

These are the CPUs that will fit that MB.
I don't see any Socket 771 motherboards for sale at NewEgg.

SuperDud · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:45:47 PM »

Thanks OOZ, I didn't even pay attention to the 775 & 771 numbers. I see what you're saying. The case I'm buying has 2 fans with it. When I go to order the processor( This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819116230 ) it gives me the option to add another fan and heatsink. Will I need these too and will I have enough room for it to fit?

OOZ662 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:48:54 PM »

Well, you'll probably want a new heatsink. The ones that come with the CPUs generally suck if they even come with one. If your case has room for another fan, you can never have too many. Just make sure it's the right size for where it's being mounted. (Getting a 120mm fan for an 80mm mount bites.

)

Also, buy some Arctic Silver. It's the best thermal paste out there. Don't use the stuff that comes with any of the CPUs/heatsinks, it's usually crap.

EDIT: The Prescott CPU core is known to run extremely hot.

SuperDud · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2006, 06:47:11 PM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
EDIT: The Prescott CPU core is known to run extremely hot.

Yeah I read reveiws about that. Think I'm going to change up and go with this 1:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116001

OK, going with the above and this motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131578

Look ok?

OOZ662 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2006, 06:49:26 PM »

I've got a 3.06GHz Northwood that sits at about 30 degrees C idle, but it's a Socket 478. The one you posted sounds like it runs at low temperatures as well.

SuperDud · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2006, 06:56:41 PM »

PS: OOZ, you're my hero:D

OOZ662 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2006, 06:59:01 PM »

Heh. Since the one in my avatar's gone on vacation, I've got Thunderbird open and recieving emails every minute. Every time someone replies to a thread...I know...

SuperDud · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:07:18 PM »

OK, last question for today. When I go to pick a hard drive, do I also have to pick a certain 1 of those? I haven't really looked into it yet to be honest.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:10:21 PM »

Get a SATA hard drive for that motherboard. Also, I would seriously look into a mirroring RAID setup. That basically makes a copy of your HD onto another HD. If the one that's actually being used eats it, you take it out, throw it away, plug in the mirrored one, and no data is lost.

SuperDud · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:12:09 PM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
Get a SATA hard drive for that motherboard. Also, I would seriously look into a mirroring RAID setup. That basically makes a copy of your HD onto another HD. If the one that's actually being used eats it, you take it out, throw it away, plug in the mirrored one, and no data is lost.

So to do the RAID thing. I would need to buy 2 hard drives? Or do they sell a special type of hard drive?

OOZ662 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:16:45 PM »

Two plain ol' SATA hard drives. The motherboard says it has RAID, so I'm guessing that means it comes with RAID software, ect already.

Also, there are all kinds of RAID setups. One way will "stripe," meaning if you write a 200kb file, the first 100kb is written to HD-A while the second 100kb is written to HD-B. That doubles the transfer speed, but if one drive dies, the other has to be formatted because it only holds half of every file.

The type of RAID setup is chosen during setup; no matter which one you choose, all you need is two SATA hard drives and your motherboard.

EDIT1: If you do a mirrored one (the first one I talked about) and use, say, two 100GB hard drives, you'll still only have 100GB of storage. The rest of them give you the total, ie 200GB, but they improve something else (like the data transfer speed.)

EDIT2: The second sentence doesn't mean you HAVE to use RAID either; it's an option, though.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:28:02 PM »

if you planing on dual sata's ina raid 0 config then its best to have 2 hd's of same size ,rpm,cache, brand perfured .. but why waste the money there .

id go with a single 250 sata partitioned and put the big bucks in the video card.

another option is if your planing a total rebuild (everything new)

go get one of those $400.00 HP's 3700+ 939 pin ,, they got 250gb sata hd's and a decient cdr dvd rw , and 1 gig ram ,,, take that puppy apart and add a gigabyte or asus mb and a good video card . just a thought .

Dont rush the build as for prices are falling fast right now . if ya shop smart you should be able to build a screamer for $700-900 area (the good custom builts are still up in the $1200 area )

OOZ662 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:32:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Roscoroo
if you planing on dual sata's ina raid 0 config then its best to have 2 hd's of same size ,rpm,cache, brand perfured .. but why waste the money there .

id go with a single 250 sata partitioned and put the big bucks in the video card.

2x160GB hard drives, knowing your data is safe but only getting 160GB; $100

1x250GB hard drive that if it dies, it's gone; $70

2x250GB hard drives, knowing your data's safe and still having big storage; $140.

SuperDud · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2006, 06:57:24 AM »

OK guys, I'm gonna step back and see where I am to make sure I'm getting everything I need and not screwing up.

So far I have ordered the case, processor and motherboard as posted above. I also ordered this guy for my ROM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106013

Will this fill both my CD and DVD needs?

For memory and hard drive I have on my wishlist:

memory: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145566

hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144701

For the hard drive I'm just going to order 1 for now. Like I said this is my 1st build and I don't want to get too complicated with it. In the future I might try that RAID thing, or if it makes sense and seems easy when it all arrives, I'll go ahead and do it.

As for the Video card, I'm thinking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142052 If you guys can find one below $220 that will work better, I'm game. I'll probably check again later today, I'm just kinda tired right now.

Sound card I'm going with a turtle beach product because I had 1 years ago and loved it. And for internet conection I was just gonna steal one outta this computer. Will that work? Welp I work nights so I'm kinda tired:D Gonna go to bed and check this when I get up. If there are no objections... it's a go!@ And to think I was gonna order all this over a period of months, so much for that plan hehehe.

Oh and did I forget anything?