Author Topic: Building my 1st PC... (Read 2641 times)

eagl · « **Reply #30 on:** July 28, 2006, 01:52:48 PM »

I remember getting the "right" mobo... slot 1, socket 7, and AMD's socket 939. It's all BS, because they profit whenever you are forced to buy a new mobo. They'll swap some pins or require an odd voltage, and you'll have to buy a new mobo in a year. I've seen it happen every single upgrade cycle for the last 18 years.

Krusty · « **Reply #31 on:** July 28, 2006, 02:05:50 PM »

Hrm.... Pentium 4s in 775 socket layout... They all fit in my motherboard. Basically I can take the D chips, I can do the really bad chips (what are they? either 64 bit or pre-conroe dual cores) -- hell I think I can even take a celeron D or two, all in the same motherboard, swapping them out.

The only ones that profit by doing that are the motherboard companies, not the chip designiners.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2006, 04:47:32 PM »

Eagl, the 965 and 975 Intel chipsets support Conroe. Motherboard manufacturers who have been shipping these chipsets only need a BIOS update to support Conroe.

The ones shipping today do support Conroe and have been tested and reviewed by all the major hardware sites.

Conroe is physically an LGA775 part, just like the Prescott P4. Conroes are already shipping. Newegg has some of them in stock now, as do a few other sites.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 28, 2006, 04:49:44 PM »

Too bad I got a Socket 478 instad of an LGA775.

SuperDud · « **Reply #34 on:** July 28, 2006, 07:06:52 PM »

OK, everything is ordered and it's a good thing b/c my PC has finally died lol. 1 thing about my processor is it says it can be overclocked to raise the speed fairly well. How would I go about overclocking?

OOZ662 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 28, 2006, 07:09:34 PM »

First of all, find out what the max temp you want to run your CPU at is. Then go into the BIOS (usually by hitting F1 or Delete or some other key as the system POSTs, or shows all the stuff like the CDs connected and memory test. The very first thing you see when you hit the power button). Somewhere there should be voltage settings. By adjustin those, you overclock the CPU and RAM.

I have absolutely no overclocking experience, and recommend you look up an article on it on a respected website.

Krusty · « **Reply #36 on:** July 28, 2006, 07:36:15 PM »

Simple way of overclocking: Don't.

Slightly easier way of describing how to overclock: Depends on the BIOS of the motherboard. ASUS (my mobo mfc'er) offers options to overclock by 5% increments as well as manual. Some mobos make it easier than others. Some mobos flat out don't support it (well, they didn't used to, heck if I know in this day and age if that's still true)

SuperDud · « **Reply #37 on:** July 29, 2006, 07:10:08 AM »

Alrighty then, I won't mess with it. Didn't know if it'd be worth the trouble or not. If it risk destroying things then I'm out. Thanks guys and I'm sure there will be more to come when the actual peices start to arrive:D

OOZ662 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 29, 2006, 01:52:38 PM »

Yup, if you overclock it too much, the heat rises and you melt the CPU, the Mobo, or even both.

SuperDud · « **Reply #39 on:** July 30, 2006, 07:55:08 PM »

OK another question. I was disecting my dead PC today and when I took the heatsink off my processor I saw all that "sealant" that they put between the 2. My question is, when I go to put them together on my new one, do I just smear some on the processor or the heatsink?

Also, I know there's some wiring connections to be made. Can I expect the wiring to come with the parts or will I need to buy that seperately?

Rolex · « **Reply #40 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:24:08 PM »

Read the instructions about installing the thermal paste.

Wiring and instructions will come in the motherboard box.

Everything you buy has intructions included, doesn't it?

This will not be as hard or as complicated as you think it will be. Read the instructions and you'll be fine. The intructions and photos/illustrations are written at a 12 year-old level.

If you get stuck, remember that Chinese peasants can assemble PCs, then read the instructions again.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 30, 2006, 09:24:22 PM »

Rub both the heatsink contact and the CPU heat transfer surface with 99% rubbing alcohol on a lint-free cloth. I used coffee filters.

Let the alcohol evaporate off. Install the CPU into the motherboard. Put a dot of thermal paste about 3/4 the size of a grain of rice onto the CPU. Put the heatsink straight down onto the CPU, twisting it a couple degrees in each direction. Don't spin it, just twist it a little. Without lifting up at all, install the heatsink's clips. When the computer first starts, go into the BIOS and watch the temperature. If it gets too hot, undo the process, cleaning both surfaces thoroughly.

Krusty · « **Reply #42 on:** July 30, 2006, 11:23:49 PM »

If you use Arctic Silver 5 (I used this not too long ago, for the first time) they give very specific instructions, such as taking a razor blade or flat edge and smoothing what little paste you have, making it flat and making it spread to the edges, etc etc...

As for the motherboard, the only problems for wires are: SATA/IDE, USB connectors, CD-ROM audio cables (if integrated audio), PSU/fans, and the "hardest" one, the case plugs. These should be very clearly marked on both the wires and the motherboard manual. Keep the manual. It's got oodles of info you will want later, when you need to look something up.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 31, 2006, 12:07:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
If you use Arctic Silver 5 (I used this not too long ago, for the first time) they give very specific instructions, such as taking a razor blade or flat edge and smoothing what little paste you have, making it flat and making it spread to the edges, etc etc...

I did the above (my post) with Arctic Silver 5 and it works great. I'd thik that smoothing it would introduce more air pockets, making it work worse.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2006, 07:00:40 AM »

And just to add to whats already been said here.

When you install the MOBO in the case. remember not to overtighten the screws.

And when you put it all together. Rout the wires away from the case fans.

Recently rebuilt my machine and forgot this.
All of a sudden I hear this "BbddddddddddddddddddddddddT" sound

"WTF IS THAT??" Says I.

One of the wires slipped over and one of the case fans started rubbing against it.

No damage but startled the dickens out of me

but not only for that. But because you want goo airflow throughout the case. and if the wires are in front of a fan it blocks airflow