Author Topic: Building my 1st PC... (Read 2638 times)

Schutt · « **Reply #90 on:** August 18, 2006, 06:47:21 PM »

I always though SLI means Scan Line Interleaving as in one line by one card, next line by the other. But i might be wrong there.

Dual graphic chips for one picture is nothing i want, not on one card and not on two. In my opinion its a pure sales strategy, one high end card is better than two mid end cards and one high end card is enough for everyone who only needs current games. If you do 3D modeling or game design of next years goodies there might be the need for a better card but for private use there is not.

Now the upgrade argument doesnt count either, since when you buy an upgrade in 1 year a better graphic card generation will be out and you want the better generation for more features & better performance at similar power rating, not slightly better performance for double power usage.

When you need more graphic power in a year or two throw away the current card and buy a new one, will fit in the same slot as the previous.

Not all sockel that physicaly fit a conroe are compatible. So you must check if the motherboard can take it. Also if the motherboard can take it with the newest bios revision make sure your board has that revision because you can not update the bios without cpu and you cant use the conroe for updating then.

Serial ATA is diffrent as it transfers the bits one after each other and not 16 at the same time like the old ide ATA. But it transfers them much faster so in the end the data rate is better. You can not use SATA drives on an old IDE interface and vice versa, so if you want to use your old harddrive or more than 2 CD/DVD drives you need a motherboard with at least 2 IDE interfaces which is no longer common.

If you buy a new harddrive you should buy SATA and also have that on your board.... which is on any new motherboard now anyway.

PS why is there no spell check option?

SuperDud · « **Reply #91 on:** August 29, 2006, 08:26:13 AM »

OK, I figured to all involved your owed some closure on my mess I called a PC build. And as embarrassing as it maybe, here goes...

So when last I wrote about my PC I had a P5W mobo and a pentium D processor. Welp... they cooked. I figured it was from the thermal paste incident so it was lesson learned for me. I went ahead and bought a new processor(Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor ) and mobo(P5B). I reinstall everything and fire up the PC. I start getting the same problem. At this point I'm not losing this mobo and CPU too, I actually spent a pretty penny on it compared to last time. So I take her into a shop. Guy starts taking it apart and looks at me and says, "Where are your spacers for the motherboard"? Apparantly when your mobo touches the case it's a bad thing

So yeah, I was shorting out my mobo the whole time, it was that simple. New PC is up and running now and works great. Just thougt I'd let everyone know and say thanks one last time for all the help.

Krusty · « **Reply #92 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:40:40 AM »

The spacers!! LMAO!!!!

Yeah, I think the motherboard manual mentions something about them...

One thing: I don't know if the old board was really fried or just shorted. If you remove the short (add the spacers) it might start right up. If you still have the parts you should test them out and maybe sell them back or return them for refund or something.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 29, 2006, 02:31:44 PM »

I dunno...after that heat I wouldn't trust them for very long.

I've actually never used spacers. I don't even know what they look like. My MB is so top heavy (bigarse heatsink) that I just loosen a couple screws until it's just barely hanging off the case.

It works eventually.

I grounded my power switch last time. Thought I had killed it, then pulled the wire for the power switch trying to get it from the MB (I forgot to turn off the power from the PSU) and it pulled the MB up; the fans started going and all the lights lit up and it scared me so bad I nearly fell over.

eagl · « **Reply #94 on:** August 30, 2006, 05:14:51 AM »

Heh. How did you get the video card to fit without the mobo spacers? Just bend the bracket up 1/4 inch?

Wow. That's a good one

Of course, I came close to doing the same. Before I learned better, I thought the anti-static bag the mobo came in was an insulator, not a conductor, so I used a sheet of the bag as an anti-shorting layer between the mobo and the mobo tray. Yea I used the spacers but I thought the plastic sheet would be added protection. Even with this mistake, the computer ran fine for 5 years but later on I learned that the bag is designed to be a nice conductor so no static charge would build up. Whoops.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #95 on:** August 30, 2006, 09:32:33 PM »

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Originally posted by eagl
Heh. How did you get the video card to fit without the mobo spacers? Just bend the bracket up 1/4 inch?

That's why those are off?

Holy crap, I thought my case was manufactured incorrectly!

What do the spacers even look like?

Simaril · « **Reply #96 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:49:07 PM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
That's why those are off? Holy crap, I thought my case was manufactured incorrectly! What do the spacers even look like?

Have to admit I might have made the same mistake...was fiddling around with the screws trying to find which ones fit the MoBo holes AND the threads in the case, when I realized that I had exactly the same number of those little brass things as I had board holes, and that the screws I wanted to use were threaded better for the spacers than for the case holes...

Krusty · « **Reply #97 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:54:52 PM »

Am I the only one that READ the motherboard manual when putting his PC together?!?!

OOZ662 · « **Reply #98 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:24:12 PM »

I didn't get a manual with my motherboard.

Krusty · « **Reply #99 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:42:53 PM »

To quote Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots: Part Deux, "Those bastards!"

Simaril · « **Reply #100 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:53:53 PM »

My manual for MoBo went into great detail about the connections and the utilities, but both the MoBo manual and the case manual assumed the screws were beneath discussion.

SuperDud · « **Reply #101 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:05:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Am I the only one that READ the motherboard manual when putting his PC together?!?!

Mine doesn't mention them whatsoever. Just tells me to put the 6 screws into the mobo, go figure.

Clutz · « **Reply #102 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:19:31 PM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
So I take her into a shop. Guy starts taking it apart and looks at me and says, "Where are your spacers for the motherboard"? Apparantly when your mobo touches the case it's a bad thing

Dangit Dangit Dangit. mobo to case was my first though way back when u lost your power supply and had to replace it. I did mention a short circuit, I just didn't think anybody would lay a mobo flat on the side of the case. I should have said it, I'm sorry, dangit dangit dangit. I knew there had to be a big short in there to fry a power supply coupled with all the heat problems u had. sheesh

38ruk · « **Reply #103 on:** September 01, 2006, 11:23:03 PM »

Hehe no standoff's ,ouch. Guess its an easy mistake is they werent mentioned anywhere in the instructions . How did ya get the pci cards screwed in or how did the mouse and keyboard connections fit in the I/O insert panel in the back ? Glad i used an existing box when i installed my first board , the standoff's were already in place .

Roscoroo · « **Reply #104 on:** September 01, 2006, 11:24:56 PM »

these guys shoulda read the instuctions or at least looked at the pic's lol