Tom Dashole

[Udie]

Originally posted by weazel:

None of the businesses the slack jawed fool from Texas operated ever had any success did they, in fact weren't they all LOSERS for the investors?

He isn't smart enough to pour the piss out of his own boots, good thing daddy and Cheney are running the country and allowing Dubya to have a 4 year vacation or we would be in deep toejam.

 Prove your statements or shut your hole.  And by all means please keep underestimating him.  You liberal losers are the diddlying reason we're in the mess we're in.  Go ahead and hang your hat on the past 8 years.  We'll be paying for those 8 years for a long time and we've already started paying.  Your boy had 3 galdarned chances to have bin laden HANDED OVER WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED  after we KNEW HE WAS A TERRORIST WHO ATTACKED AMERICAN PROPERTY Clinton said no each time.  Go ahead and line yourself up in his corner, the sorry son of a squeak is just as much responsible for 9/11 as bin laden.  Go ahead and keep defending that piece of toejam and his administration, go ahead and keep thinking Bush is stupid. T. Damazinhunk spent the better part of 8 years defending that bastard so he's partly responsible too as far as I'm concerned.

[AKSWulfe]

Clinton left the White House in shambles- literally. Destroyed and stolen government property, desks left with drawers pulled out on the floor and/or broken, phones destroyed, chairs busted.. the list goes on.

How you can still defend or even like him is beyond me. He's not a president, he was just an appointed piece of toejam more concerned with getting his nob slobbed than actually doing a worthwhile job.
-SW

[ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: SWulfe ]

[weazel]

Typical ratpublican tactics to put words in someones mouth. I didn't defend anyone-just pointed out that in the private sector Dubya was a failure.  

So shut your own hole udie and keep believing that little rat diddly is someting special, he's scum born of scum.

You know...the son of a noodlesucker who helped import and sell drugs to Americans, of course you probably see nothing wrong with that since you are proud of the fact that your a doper.

[Ripsnort]

Weazel, he was not a failure in the private sector.

[Udie]

Originally posted by weazel:
Typical ratpublican tactics to put words in someones mouth. I didn't defend anyone-just pointed out that in the private sector Dubya was a failure.    

So shut your own hole udie and keep believing that little rat diddly is someting special, he's scum born of scum.

You know...the son of a noodlesucker who helped import and sell drugs to Americans, of course you probably see nothing wrong with that since you are proud of the fact that your a doper.

 Your full of toejam weazel.  Again, prove your statements?  can't can you?    Prove any of them.  And for the record, I don't think he's so special.  I just know that he's no handsomehunk.  You are for thinking he is, but please keep underestimating him. He did fail in some businesses, but you know what, people learn from failures. Well some do.  I'd rather have somebody who failed in business in the private sector over somebody who's never even worked in the private sector anyday.  Damazinhunk is a parasite as far as I"m concerned, living off the work of others his whole career.

 Votes himself a raise then wont schedule a vote for you and me to get a raise, er.. more of our own money back in a tax cut.  What a piece of work he is, good ole liberal through and through...

[midnight Target]

Prove your statements or shut your hole. And by all means please keep underestimating him. You liberal losers are the diddlying reason we're in the mess we're in. Go ahead and hang your hat on the past 8 years. We'll be paying for those 8 years for a long time and we've already started paying. Your boy had 3 galdarned chances to have bin laden HANDED OVER WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED after we KNEW HE WAS A TERRORIST WHO ATTACKED AMERICAN PROPERTY Clinton said no each time. Go ahead and line yourself up in his corner, the sorry son of a squeak is just as much responsible for 9/11 as bin laden. Go ahead and keep defending that piece of toejam and his administration, go ahead and keep thinking Bush is stupid. T. Damazinhunk spent the better part of 8 years defending that bastard so he's partly responsible too as far as I'm concerned.
 

I sense anger here.  

Bush and Dashell are both just playing politics, and both are putting their own little spin on the situation. Dashell wants to return the Dems to their strength which is Social Security and its protection. Bush wants to make the GOP look good to its base of business leaders by accusing Dashell of wanting to "RAISE TAXES". Dashell never said that and Bush knows it. I think in the long term the "Over my dead body" quote will come back to haunt GW. Very similar to his Daddy saying "read my lips".

[Horn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Weazel, he was not a failure in the private sector.

Guess it depends on how one defines "failure"

Interesting reading: http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

dh
(not a democrat)

[ET]

Well done comparison,Ripsnort.

JFK would be a conservative Republican nowadays.The first thing he did was cut taxes and jumpstart the economy.I know.I felt it in my wallet when he did that.Ditto with Reagan.The only difference was that under Reagan the Dems kept filling up their pork barrels.They can not keep themselves from buying poor peoples votes.

Has any one ever figured out how extra taxes add to inflation ? You tax them more,they raise prices to cover it.Workers demand cost of living increases.

[Apache]

Bush has a Harvard MBA and private sector experience. Daschele has a political science degree & has had only government jobs and he's an econ expert?

He's nothing but an obstructionist.

[Ripsnort]

ET, if I were my age today in the 50's and early 60's, I too would be a democrat, however, the democratic party has drastically changed since the late 60's, and I cannot even come close to aligning myself with a political party that wants bigger Gov't, more taxes, and supports the left wing wacko groups like PETA, Green Peace, etc. etc.

Most of the older folks I know (50 to 70 yr olds) *used* to be dems back then, they've all change to the Republican party due to the left wing extremists that the Dems openly support.

Me? I still vote the issues, even voted for 1 dem in this last state election...but primarily my vote goes to the conservative ballot.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Tah Gut:
..by accusing Dashell of wanting to "RAISE TAXES". Dashell never said that and Bush knows it. I think in the long term the "Over my dead body" quote will come back to haunt GW. Very similar to his Daddy saying "read my lips".

revoking a tax cut IS raising taxes

I don't think Jr will get the same burn as Sr as they have learned to show who causes the tax increases, the dems. They caused the tax increase of Sr and they are trying again now.
Plus way different economic times. Market was going up, just won the Gulf war compared to econmoy in the toliet, fighting the good fight with no end in sight. I think Tommy boy is shooting himself in the foot.
Slamming a tax cut most of democrat buddies pasted in the 1st place..  

[Udie]

Originally posted by Tah Gut:


I sense anger here.  

Bush and Dashell are both just playing politics, and both are putting their own little spin on the situation. Dashell wants to return the Dems to their strength which is Social Security and its protection. Bush wants to make the GOP look good to its base of business leaders by accusing Dashell of wanting to "RAISE TAXES". Dashell never said that and Bush knows it. I think in the long term the "Over my dead body" quote will come back to haunt GW. Very similar to his Daddy saying "read my lips".

 You bet there's anger.  Bush isn't playing polotics.  He's doing exactly what he said he would do, except maybe the uniter thing, but who cares about that anyway.  And yes taking away a tax cut is a tax increase.  Cut it anyway you want, damazinhunk is lying and Bush isn't.   The sorry mother diddlyer gave himself a diddlying raise when we're in a recession.  I got a memo w/ my last paycheck that said, sorry due to the economy no reviews for raises this year.  That's means I'm stuck at the same rate of pay with the posibility that they may "raise" my taxes.  Hmm less money for me (not rich) more for congress (mostly rich people).  diddly them, all of em.  Keep it up and we'll probobly start seeing more American terrorist, which is probobly what they want.  Then they can really clamp down on our rights.

[LePaul]

<Throws in referee shirt...>

Guys guys guys...

Rip, beautiful comparison!

Look, take it from me, I'm from Maine, the same stupid liberal state the brought you George Mitchell, the most partisan man in the world.  Tom is doing what Democrats try to do best...hold things up, cry foul and blame the Republicans for not doing anything while blocking any and all efforts to remedy the situation(s).  They hope by doing so they can win votes in the next election by continously crying poor me for months.

Want to thank something, thanks Mr Jeffords for abadoning his Republican voters last year.  We could have gotten a lot down, but Mr Jeffords felt he wasn't getting any limelight and with such a narrow margin in the Senate, he got "loved" by the Democrats.  Odd we don't see much of that love now, do we?

So, we have a Senate that refuses to act because the slim majority want things to grind to a halt, look aweful, and win themself votes for 2004.  The general public doesn't follow politics and simply beleive what they see on TV, especially at election season, when the Democratic Spin Cycle is on overdrive.

I'm amused how people how do not PAY taxes feel the government owes them something.  I know MANY MANY small companies and people who earn $50 or $100k a year.  They work their tulips off taking care of their employees and business, only to be taxed mercilessly for being successful and responsible.  These people, amongst others, are told they do not deserve a tax cut.  Yet its their taxes that fund many public programs those "underprivileged" use and abuse.

The Democrats feel we should all make $50k a year, whether we earn it or not.  They encourage class rivalry.  Its not fair your neighbor has more than you, and he should be taxed hard, so we are all "equal".  Remind you of Communism?

Check your paycheck stubbs.  Medicare tax.  Great.  I challenge you to qualify for Medicare now.  Can't?  Make too much?  How's it feel to support a program everyone else can use except you?

Sorry for the rant.  I'm just in awe how the Democrats are being.  I was raised to be responsible for my own actions and not rely on or need handouts.  Im baffled at punishing those who rise above it all and succeed.  Im also puzzled by a government party that feels we need to hand out money to those who havent been part of earning it.  Buys votes, Im sure.  But aren't people smarter than that?

[midnight Target]

(Daschle) First, we should pass a new Jobs Creation Tax Credit. This tax cut would be available to every business in America. It says, simply, that if you increase your payroll -- if you hire new people, restore hours that have been cut, or give your workers a raise -- you'll be reimbursed for all of the extra payroll taxes.
 

<sarcasm on> Damn those left wing, tree huggin, welfare lovin, pinko liberals!<off>

Doesn't sound like raising taxes to me. Just because the 2 sides disagree on how to implement a recovery package, doesn't mean 1 side is in league with the devil. Most economists are already predicting a recovery or saying it has already started. By the time these guys quit throwing stones the economy will be back in swing and we won't need a "recovery package".

Saying GWB isn't playing politics is absurd! Of course he is. It's a big part of his job. Take off the blinders guys, the world isn't black and white.

[Ripsnort]

Actually, on this current debate, I think alittle of what Das-hole is offering, and alot of what Bush is offering, is best for America.