F4U-1 White 7, Daphne 'C'

[Guppy35]

Just out of curiosity, why are we needing BuNos on the F4Us?

Seems like there is enough photo evidence for these birds out there to support the skins.

Here's Marine's Dream from the Osprey Corsair Aces.  Tail, or what's left of it sure looks single lighter color.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Saxman

Also, if anyone else knows of a Bent Winged Bird they'd like to see let me know (and get me pics).

I was looking through Osprey's Corsair Aces of WW2...  It's really a shame we don't have the 1A...  Such great skins.

Of the ones featured in there (I assume you have it, if not I can scan one in tomorrow), the skin I'd like to see is the:

F4U-1D white 66 of Ens Alfred Lerch, VF-10, USS Intrepid , April 1945...  It's plate #50...  I'm really a fan of the darker birds, myself.

Anyway, in regards to that link Dan posted...  I'm gonna go digging through it myself tomorrow.  Do you want to get organized in doing this, so maybe we could cover it in half the time?  Let me know.

[Stoney74]

Ok,

I've looked at Baugher's page, read through about 5 different books, even looked at some after action reports to try and find the numbers.  About the only thing I can think of that hasn't been tried by me is to contact the Naval History Archives.  I'm sure some historians, like the Osprey folks, have already tried that to get the numbers.  But, it could be worth a shot.  The only catch might be finding a microfiche machine to read the records on.
I have found some numbers that Baugher didn't have on his site on other sites, so all hope may not be lost...

Good Luck Sax

p.s.  Guppy, I think he's just interested in putting them on the tail, not doubting the history of the planes/skins...

[Saxman]

Stoney hit it, I'm primarily wanting to put them on the tail.

I WOULD also like them for verification, especially in the case of the planes where I can't find anything more than decal sheets or color plates.

I ran across that site while doing a yahoo search. It doesn't have much in the way of Corsairs to begin with. Doesn't have Ramblin' Wreck, and none of the three from VF-17.

Vudak: Yeah, I'll need you to post some scans. I really should pick that book up. I REALLY hope that HTC adds the late-1944 1A we've been screaming for when they update the Hogs. I mean there's about a dozen known Jolly Rogers skins ALONE, plus all the other USN and USMC birds (so does anyone think HTC would allow Lulu/Lucybelle ).

[Vudak]

This is the only scan I have at the moment.  I've included FF59 (a plane we already have) just to show the difference in color, although I do realize that these Osprey books don't always get it right.

I was trying to look for a Corsair skin that is alittle different then what we have, but this was the best I could come up with from this book (disregarding the -1A's, which seem to make up most of the plates).  There's only so much you can do with different shades of blue

Anyway, I know this isn't enough information to start working on it, but I figure it should at least give you an idea as to whether or not it's something you're interested in doing.  It does seem to be darker then the Corsair skins we already have.



Edit, here's a prefab model (I know, poor source, but this is my first try at getting anything) giving an idea what the top of the wings MAY have looked like

[Saxman]

Looks interesting. I think I'll give her a whirl.

[Saxman]

White 66 of VF-10



I'm already working on fixing the white on the tail. The stripe on the wing has its own problems, however.

Whoever mapped the Corsair models quite frankly did a bit of a shoddy job of it. The upper and lower surfaces of the ailerons for both the -1 and -1D (not sure about the 1C or 4) actually intrude on each other, which is why in my tricolor F4U-1s if you look at them from below the Sea Blue of the upper surface of the port wing overlaps part of the the bottom of the starboard aileron (in the case of the -1, the front half of the cowl lip is ALSO incorrectly mapped, and the cowl flaps on the -1D look distorted in some places, particularly underneath).

So, I can either run the stripe the full length from leading to trailing edge where it will cut into the opposite aileron, or I have to shorten it.

[Stoney74]

Looks good--make sure to make it GLOSSY...I want to be able to shave in the cowl reflection

[Saxman]

How would I set that up?

[Stoney74]

From Krusty and Kev, they keep talking about the materials file.  There are settings in there that impact the lighting on the skin--like how reflective or flat it is when the sun reflects off the wings, etc.  Kev suggested for a flat materials file, we could just copy one of the Spit defaul materials files, or for glossy, use the default materials file from a P-38L

I haven't tried it yet, because I'm still laying out skins and am not ready for the tweaking stage.  You, on the other hand have a nice little group ready for tweaking it seems.

[Saxman]

So, get the material file from the P-38L, rename it as necessary, and put it in the folder with the skin?

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Saxman

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I'm already working on fixing the white on the tail. The stripe on the wing has its own problems, however.

Wow! You skinners never cease to amaze me.  If I were to try making one, it would take me probably four months to make something that doesn't even come close to what you all can do in a few hours

I can't wait until this one gets in the game...  Now not only can I pretend I'm flying around a Corsair in WW2, but I can ALSO pretend I'm Mario Lemieux flying a Corsair around in WW2.  Fantasy world overload, here, folks

Many thanks, Saxman!

[Saxman]

I just used the skin templates from the ahskins.com or whichever (I'm at work, and can't look at my Favorites)

But thank you.

Any other requests?

[Saxman]

White 435 of VMF-225



This one is from the rear to better show the tail markings, which ARE just readable.

[Saxman]

Well crud, I just realized we already have the VMF-225 bird.

Ah well, I like mine better.

Anyway, here's another REAL new one. White 93 of VMF-214.