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« on: August 23, 2006, 01:59:53 AM »
Folks, I've got about 1 week to line up 2 CO's for Battle of Britain 2006.

If you have played at least as a group leader or squadron leader in a previous scenario and would be willing to serve as CO -- which includes coming up with your side's strategy (or recruiting a team to do that for you), getting out mission orders to your side prior to each frame (or again, recruiting someone who will do that), recruiting good GL's, and so on -- please volunteer here or send e-mail to brooke@electraforge.com.

In your message, please let me know in which scenarios you played a leadership role and what that role was.

Scenarios need CO's.  It is work, yes, but so is being a CM -- and CM's can't even have the fun of flying in the scenario.  We do it because, without CM's, there would be no scenarios.  Well, without CO's there would be no scenarios either.  Please volunteer if you are willing to step up to the plate and help out.

If you aren't willing to volunteer but know of someone who would be a good CO, please suggest them here so that I can contact them.

I have only about a week to get this completed in order to keep this scenario on track.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 04:22:54 PM »
if noone else can do it i might be able to help. what exactly is envolved?

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2006, 07:58:31 PM »
provided im not busy, you might pencil me in for allied CO, i'll have to see ;)

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 08:36:04 PM »
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provided im not busy, you might pencil me in for allied CO, i'll have to see ;)


:rofl  You better not be busy if your going to Volunteer.  It's like a 24/7 Job, but very fun, nervewracking, fun, thinking Stradegy 24/7.  Oh and lets not leave out the Pressure. The Fate of 100+ people all depending on you to lead them to the promised land and make it fun.

Ah and the second guessing you do and start sweating that you made the wrong moves.

CO'in a Scenario is like divin into the deep end of the pool, and if ya never planned/CO'ed a snapshot, or CIC a frame in FSO, or even run a mission in the MA then this IMHO will be almost overwhelming,,,hell it's almost overwhelming with any of those under your belt.

You have to recruit, organize flights assign Flight leads and a command team, usually your flight leads. Ya have to get a good command team or your done. and don't forget planning and practice.

BUT.... don't get me wrong, with all that I absolutely LOVED it and have already volunteered to CO two more scenarios in the future.:aok

Also if a CM is on your side, don't assign them to important a task, they like to go awol from there post  ughhum ROC.


It also helps to know alot of people in the game, makes it mucho easier.


But overall defenitly worth the effort.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 08:26:02 AM »
i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.

what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?

if the latter, im in, checked plans for september and so far im free every saturday at 8 :)

like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.

brooke, any chance of you shedding some light on this in a little more detail?

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 09:48:11 AM »
You need a full battle plan before you start frame 1. You need contingency plans in case certain events take place. You need to know everything you can in order to be able to adapt during the frame.

If, during the frame, you know you MUST have a full squadron in one sector to intercept bombers, but 1 hour in your squad is lost, down, or rearming, you need to be able to say "Okay then, squad X patrol there, when squad Y is done they'll go here".

The planning leads up to the frame, and the frame is the hectic execution of the plan. :)

I've had not-to-different experiences in another game. It can be great fun.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 11:53:24 AM »
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i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.

what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?

like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.
 


That's a great offer and I am sure its appreciated, however.. :)

Unless you have already been CO in an event or been a major part of the command staff on a previous event you will be out of your depth in taking the position.

And if your planning on flying and dogfighting, forget being the CO.  You might be able to pilot a bomber or a rescue vehicle, but you cannot take up a fighter spot and run the whole show.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 02:12:45 PM »
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And if your planning on flying and dogfighting, forget being the CO.  You might be able to pilot a bomber or a rescue vehicle, but you cannot take up a fighter spot and run the whole show.



that's what i was worried about. i have however been a CO for side X several times in snapshots:aok

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 02:43:57 PM »
Hey Biggles...

I dont think Doobs know who you are....

Make him play 20 questions to figure it out....



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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 02:56:52 AM »
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i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.

what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?

if the latter, im in, checked plans for september and so far im free every saturday at 8 :)

like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.

brooke, any chance of you shedding some light on this in a little more detail?


Poo -- uh, I mean, Biggles.

CO's can run it however they see fit within the framework of the rules.

The most-important qualities of a CO, in my opinion, are to be good at strategy or to recruit a staff that is good at strategy (as the CO or his staff are responsible for formulating your side's whole strategy), to appoint good group leaders (who can organize their pilots well and lead them well in combat to carry out the CO's in-combat orders as well as keep the CO informed of new developments), and to communicate well with your team (so that people are clear on what the goals and initial plan are and aren't wandering around, disorganized and ineffective, not knowing what they should do).

How you do these things is up to you.

There is one procedural thing that I very much hope that all CO's do, because I think it enhances the scenario experience for the players, making it a lot more immersive.  That is:  compose orders that are e-mailed out to your pilots at least a day or two prior to each frame.

These orders lay out at least:

-- who is in what group
-- who is the group leader of each group
-- radio channels for each group
-- initial takeoff field for each group
-- what aircraft each group initially takes off in
-- a brief description of what each group is to do initially after takeoff (such as, for bombers (if any), what their targets and perhaps flightpaths are; for escorting fighters (if any), who they are initially escorting and to where; for scouting fighters (if any), where they are to scout; for fighter-sweeps (if any), where they are to go initially -- things like that)

Some CO's make these orders very detailed.  Some CO's make them much less detailed.

Again, what you do is up to you as CO -- you're the guy.

Orders are not meant to lay out every possibility and to be followed by rote no matter what.  Upon contact with the enemy, parts of the orders get changed as you (the CO) give new orders to your groups and as your GL's react to what the enemy is doing.  For example, orders might say that Fight A is to do close escort on some bomber group.  Then, enemies are sighted by a scout coming in from some direction and maybe some screening fighters were already stripped away.  You, the CO, might decide to give Flight A new orders:  "Flight A, leave close escort and go intercept enemy fighters reported in 10,3,1" (or whatever).  Then your flight leader for Flight A will take his guys and go do it, reporting back to you what they find or what happens.  Maybe the CO decides also to have his bombers divert farther west because of this.  Maybe he repositions other fighter groups or changes their orders based on what happens with Flight A.  And so on.

The orders give people a sense of what they *initially* are to try accomplishing, and orders set up a more immersive atmosphere where pilots know the general goals and the initial strategy.  They aren't at all meant to constrain the CO.

Here is an example of medium-detail orders:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/orders_frame2.txt
Here is how that frame actually went:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/stalins_fourth/frame2_aar.html
Here is an example of high-detail orders:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/rangoon42/Mission4Orders.htm
Here is how that frame actually went:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/rangoon42/frame4_aar.html

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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 10:15:32 AM »
Pilots Quick Ref Frame Two

I threw this togeather from the information on the BBS threads I thought it was useful, dont know about the other IJN pilots

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2006, 10:04:29 AM »
great ;)

if there are no objections, i'll be happy to be allied CO :)

are you still looking for an axis CO too brooke? when panzzer and I ran those missions in the first BoB RPS in the AvA, i think he organised the axis very well :) that is if he would like to do it of course :)

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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2006, 10:07:26 AM »
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Hey Biggles...

I dont think Doobs know who you are....

Make him play 20 questions to figure it out....



:D



nah, i wont be cruel ;)

it's pooface doobs, i've done plenty of this kind of stuff before, just not on such a large scale. dunno if many of you were there in the AvA that time we had the missions going? i know brooke was, and we had a lot of fun organising RAF patrols to intercept panzzer's buff raids :) was great fun, im hoping this scenario will be even bigger and better.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2006, 10:51:41 AM »
Yeah I figured it out on Brooke's last post.


ya newb:p
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2006, 01:45:33 PM »
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Yeah I figured it out on Brooke's last post.


ya newb:p


hehe :)


should be fun actually, lets hope for decent numbers and some great dogfights. very much looking forward to it :cool:

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