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Offline Gh0stFT

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« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2006, 11:05:56 AM »
"Your educated and smart or your in Iraq"

you guys missed the words "and smart"
he should leave the word "educated" out:

"Your smart or your in Iraq"

wow now it makes sense! dont you think?
i think thats what he really wanted to say.
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« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2006, 11:21:54 AM »
I think you just said the same thing.

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« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2006, 11:28:24 AM »
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
"Your educated and smart or your in Iraq"

you guys missed the words "and smart"
he should leave the word "educated" out:

"Your smart or your in Iraq"

wow now it makes sense! dont you think?
i think thats what he really wanted to say.


You should really study the man closely. And then realize what he says is what he means, until he gets called on it. Then it all changes. Seriously, go and read what he has said and what he has written. Don't listen to sound bites and guess or try to divine what you think he meant. Go look into his back ground and see for yourself.
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« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2006, 11:37:58 AM »
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I'm just saying that I wouldn't paint most people in the lower class as having better  morals then everyone in higher classes...

I know quite a few people from both extremes who are absolute scumbags.  If you believe in "The American Dream" (or just have worked for a few years in a decently sized city) and such it would almost seem like there are more in the poorer classes...  Just the rich ones are more noticeable.

Also saying that morals play a lesser role in the lives of the educated...  Why would you say that?  Because what they argue for is different?  There's two sides and all...  A person arguing to keep abortion legalized, for example, isn't doing so because they're evil (well, we'd hope)...  They're doing so because they've been exposed to different (not necessarily better) ideas that seem to make sense to them.

A major point of going to school is for things to rub off on you that you wouldn't have experienced without school...  I'd imagine that is still a major point of joining the service, too.


I agree that most is a overstatement on my part. If not a majority lack them. I'll restate it as a majority of those who join the military from the lower classes have higher morals then the upper class.

People who decide to go to a college to further their education brought to them with hard work do not have the lesser amount of morals. I would consider them average. Those who are given a education through money I would consider having a lesser amount. Their opinions are based on their lives. Which is usually based on a free ride throughout life.

I tried to write out an example of my opinion. But, my lack of writing skills would only prove to further confuse myself and others. Hurting my argument in the long run.
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« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2006, 11:44:38 AM »
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On a serious note, has there been any calls for his resignation?


Even if Kerry too a dump on a Jerry Kid, on national TV..  All he would need to do is check into "scat" rehab for a few days, claim he had a traumatizing fecal incident as a child by an "unnamed pooper", then cry on Oprah.. sheeple would still vote for him because there's a "D" next to his name.

He belongs to the #2 DC crime family, power has its privileges.

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photoshopped?
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2006, 12:11:23 PM »


I don't know how long this will stay up.
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« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2006, 12:14:21 PM »
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A major point of going to school is for things to rub off on you that you wouldn't have experienced without school...  


i thought the point of going to school was to learn something, my bad. :confused:

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« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2006, 12:38:59 PM »
As a 20-year vet, I find Kerry's remarks despicable, but completely in character for the dirt bag.  I did not enter the military because I had no options, but to serve my country, further my education, and be part of an honorable enterprise.  Kerry is representative of liberal democrats, who despise the military.  Why anyone would think to intrust the safety of their country, at such a dangerous and pivotal time in history, to this creten and his ilk is beyond me.  It would be like calling the American troops at Omaha beach or the Battle of the Bulge a bunch of loosers.  Disgusting.:mad:
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Re: photoshopped?
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2006, 12:40:40 PM »
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I don't know how long this will stay up.



LMAO :D

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« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2006, 12:41:31 PM »
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i thought the point of going to school was to learn something, my bad. :confused:


What do you think learning is?

It's not all by rote...
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« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2006, 12:44:47 PM »
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What do you think learning is?

It's not all by rote...


College can be useful ( I went) but many kids learn little more than partying and rutting.

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« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2006, 12:45:25 PM »
let me rephrase, i thought the point of going to school was to learn a skill so you could earn a good living.

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« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2006, 12:49:12 PM »
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wow, are those his real medals? Did you get them out of a dumpster or what?


As I recall, the medals he threw over the White House fence were not his.  So he says now and during the last election.
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« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2006, 12:52:48 PM »
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As I recall, the medals he threw over the White House fence were not his.  So he says now and during the last election.


He did say that didn't he? What was the point of him throwing someone else's medals over the fence? It isn't just the military this guy thinks is stupid. He thinks we're all stupid.



It doesn't matter who the medals actually belonged to. They are symbolic and can be replaced easily enough. Throwing them over that fence was an act of disownment, contempt, or disgust. That he would later claim that they weren't his medals reveals this guy's lack of character in so many different ways.
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« Reply #119 on: November 01, 2006, 12:56:24 PM »
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I agree that most is a overstatement on my part. If not a majority lack them. I'll restate it as a majority of those who join the military from the lower classes have higher morals then the upper class.

People who decide to go to a college to further their education brought to them with hard work do not have the lesser amount of morals. I would consider them average. Those who are given a education through money I would consider having a lesser amount. Their opinions are based on their lives. Which is usually based on a free ride throughout life.

I tried to write out an example of my opinion. But, my lack of writing skills would only prove to further confuse myself and others. Hurting my argument in the long run.


First of all, no one is given an education - not even people with money.  Like Captain Virgil was saying, there are plenty of people who waste the opportunity, but do just well enough to pass, and then get some sort of position based on nothing really.  The people who actually get educated are the ones who work for it.  I know in high school I used to go to certain classes where the view was especially nice every single day, but I didn't learn a darn thing in them.  If you're complaining about people who are given a free ride through life in general though, I'm with ya on that one.

About people who join the military, whether from lower or higher classes...  Well, think about it this way...  Wouldn't it be somewhat fair to say that people from higher classes (like Cav - lemme drag you in here, en? ;) ) are giving up significant income and opportunities to enlist?  I mean, if you're the sort of person who can acquire a masters and be able to make it in the military, you're the kind of person who could do just about anything...  Jobs significantly less risky, that pay better, have better hours, better perks, better food, everything.

In my opinion, it takes a whole heck of a lot of morals for someone like that to sign up...  Westpoint is not an easy school to get to.  If you can get in there, you should be able to get into a civilian college and make plenty of money in your life.

Instead, these fellas give all that up to take a job, that, to put it generously, really sucks.  Long hours, low pay, low to no control of where you wind up, high risk, people spitting in your face when you're on parade, etc.  It takes a special kind of person to do.  It's really admirable.

Now, on the other hand, a guy from a poor background without as much opportunity, might see the military as his best shot at a good life.  Don't get me wrong - he too sacrificies...  But do you see what I'm getting at?

That right there would be why throughout history most of the draft dodgers have been rich, and most of the common infantry have been poor.

I'm just saying - don't make the mistake of thinking everyone in your bootcamp is there for moral reasons.  I'm sure many are.  But many are there simply because it's their best shot.

Everyone who joins the service is someone who should be respected and honored...  But it'd be pretty far fetched to suggest that everyone who joins has some higher moral standard then the rest of the world...  They don't give you a bucket of it for an enlistment bonus, after all.
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