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Offline skernsk

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Framerate --- Hardware question
« on: November 25, 2000, 07:56:00 AM »
System

Celeron 500mHz
196mb pc100 RAM
16mb Voodoo3 - 2000 Video Card

MAXIMUM FR while looking dead ahead is 32fps

Usually less than 10fps in smoke

10-20fps in clouds

I feel with the high amount of RAM and a pretty decent video card my framerate should be better should it not?    

Offline 214thCavalier

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
Personally i dont think you can expect any better with the hardware you have.
500 celery is not exactly even close to a top performer now and i dont know who told you a Voodoo 3 2000 was a pretty decent video card cos i am afraid its not, well not to me anyway.
Be happy with your frame rates a lot have worse and its about as much as you can expect with that setup i reckon.

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2000, 10:36:00 AM »
i have close to the same system you have , but my cellery is a 366 overclocked to 550 runnin 100 mhz bus. and same pci vid card . you are probly at cpu and vid card upgrade point. with a slightly better processor you will improve to 34 or so frames per sec but that is it . get a g forcce mx i would say  

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2000, 03:29:00 PM »
Hmmm when you say looking straight ahead.. at what altitude?

I am running a celery 266(no cache) @ 448, 128mb ram, v3 3000 AGP (not oclocked), and awe64
At 1024x768 Full view range, I get up to 60 fps depending on my altitude (60 is obviously at 20+k)  In smoke I do get 5-15 fps depending on how much.

You may want to make sure your system is tweaked.  Sites like tweak3d.net may be able to help you get a few more frames out of it.

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2000, 05:45:00 PM »
I used to get 30-32 frames in the tower average...untill I had to reinstall Win98se..

With my current system I'm now getting 44 FPS in the tower and looking straight up in the cockpit I'm at 79fps. What did I do?

First some specs...

PII400 not O/C'd
192 megs PC100 8ns ram
TNT2 32 meg vid card...AGP 1x slot and 2.08 drivers
440 BX MB
800x600 32 bit
SB Live
All CH gear, peds, FFX, throttle hooked to SB's gameport.
DX 7a
HiRez cockpit art

Not very impressive but good FR's from it...here's how.

Boot drive is small....less than 1 gig and 2/3 of it used.

AH partition is 4+gigs and free of all other proggies. Could do w/ a smaller partition...it was the only one I had free...BTW..the AH partition and my swapfile partition are the primary partitions on those drives.

Virtual memory set to 2x my ram for min and max.

Swap file of 384 megs set to the root of a different HD than AH and has less than 10% used.

Monitor refresh rate set to 100hz.

BTW...all my HD's are 7200 rpm drives.

Lars




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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2000, 11:40:00 PM »
Hi skernsk,
 Have you thought about monitor refresh rates? I run a PII 400 128mb RAM and a Voodoo 2 12MB.

I easily get 40 fps + in 800*600 and stay above 30 in 1024*768. (Cockpit view no furball or smoke) I get 60 looking straight up (Either resolution)

Follow this link. (Posted by Bloom25) http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum5/HTML/000440.html

Helped me a lot  

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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2000, 04:39:00 PM »
Skernsk what resolution are you running it at?

With graphics cards it is important to note that below 1024x768 very little difference is made at about the TNT2 level. IE, at 800x600 at TNT2/Voodoo X will keep the framerates just as high as cards like the Geforce. The Geforce cards really push the numbers up for higher resolutions.

Likewise if you set Windows up right after about 128Mb the RAM won't help. IE as long as you don't have anything running in the background.

Most likely the processor is the bottleneck, early Celerons weren't noted for their amazing speed. You may also want to check the mainboard is running at 100Mhz FSB, back in the C500 days I know a lot of people used older chipset boards that only ran at 66Mhz FSB but chucked PC100 ram in them. You may also want to check the chipset or board type, this can also affect performance (ie make sure its a good quality BX board).


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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2000, 01:30:00 PM »
HEYA GUYS !

when you over clock a processor how much more performance can you expect out of it.
i have a :
WIN98
PIII 500
16meg Nvidia Tnt
creative live pci64d
13 gig SCSII
21" monitor

I get about 30 fps average(1024x768 16bit), anything near smoke and i drop way down to 5 or 6 fps.
is there any way i can get the fps up with this machine near the smoke. I finally learned how to dive bomb and ack kill but i cant get real good at it with the screen shuttering like it is now.

RWY

Offline bloom25

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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2000, 06:50:00 PM »
Contrary to what is stated above, all Celerons up to the 766 run at 66 Mhz FSB.  Putting PC100 ram in the system is really a waste of money, you won't get any better performance with a Celeron.  (Intel plans on making 100 Mhz FSB versions of the Celeron soon though.)  If you are overclocking a Celeron, then 100 Mhz ram is a good idea to prevent system instability.



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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2000, 09:56:00 PM »
I run a celeron at 112 mhz FSB, with 1 stick pc66 ram and another stick pc125 with nooo instability probs, at 2.00 volts.  It has ran at 124 FSB however my pc66 ram won't handle that.
CPU runnin still great after 18 months+ at this speed. (be warned, I got lucky with this cpu)

Ohh and BTW i see quite a difference between 100mhz FSB and 112mhz in some sims (GPL comes to mind) not tried declockin to see in AH.. but then why would I? +)

AKSKurj

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