Author Topic: You're on the jury. (Read 958 times)

cav58d · « **on:** December 10, 2006, 12:26:39 AM »

Scenario - A father comes home one night to find out his seventeen year old daughter has been raped by a eighteen year old male she was chatting to on myspace. (The myspace page brags about drug use, and even has explecit instructions to make cocaine)....Upon finding how his daughter has been raped, the father grabs his gun, tracks down the kid and kills him. The father immediately drives to his towns police station and turns himself in. When questioned, the father admits he knew exactly what he was doing.

You're on the jury. What would your recommendation be in sentencing? How hard or soft would you be?

rpm · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:30:40 AM »

20 years

Neubob · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:31:44 AM »

17 is old enough to have a brain. Or at least part of one... On the other hand, what sort of upbringing did dear old dad provide if she's intentionally seeking out guys who brag about cooking up cocaine?

If the kid had lived, I'd have thrown the book at him for rape, but the other two in this sweet little fairytale are far from innocent.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:32:45 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
20 years

Ditto.

cav58d · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:39:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
what sort of upbringing did dear old dad provide if she's intentionally seeking out guys who brag about cooking up cocaine?

I think you can bring your kid up in the best environment, and they can still resort to talking to fools like this. Remember, its a seventeen year old impressionable girl.

cav58d · « **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:40:21 AM »

Well let me add something......

In this scenario, say the state is trying for the death penalty.

Wolfala · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:41:36 AM »

Give'm a medal.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #7 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:43:25 AM »

Life.

Neubob · « **Reply #8 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:44:22 AM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
I think you can bring your kid up in the best environment, and they can still resort to talking to fools like this. Remember, its a seventeen year old impressionable girl.

Actually, I'm thinking that the kind of guy that would bring up a girl to be an idiot like that is exactly the kind of guy that would take the law into his own hands and, with aforethought, deal his already injured family another vicious blow by becoming a convicted murderer.

20 years.

cav58d · « **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:44:43 AM »

I think I would say 10 without paroll

Kurt · « **Reply #10 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:47:41 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
20 years

Jury's decide Guilt or Innocence, not length of sentence like that.

Sadly, as a juror even understanding the fathers position I find him guilty as long as evidence supports that his confession is true.

Rape does not justify murder any more than murder would justify rape.

As a father of a teen myself, I can tell you I would want to kill him... And I MIGHT kill him... But, I would expect my penalty, just as the rapist in your story got his death penalty.

If I deal out death and judgement on my own, then I am subject to judgement. So it goes.

Anyhow, long story short, the commision of crime by that kid does not make the father's crime any less heinous. Guilt is the only possible result.

Neubob · « **Reply #11 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:48:33 AM »

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I think I would say 10 without paroll

Where is this coming from, or is this just a 2 am hypothetical?

Meatwad · « **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:49:46 AM »

Innocent, her father removed a drug addict scumbag from the earth.

If the loser was still alive, who knows how many more he would of hurt. Good riddance to garbage

cav58d · « **Reply #13 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:53:06 AM »

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Where is this coming from, or is this just a 2 am hypothetical?

It's just out of my mind, 2 AM hypothetical off the wall scenario. I have been writing a research paper for three days straight now with minimal sleep, and this is the first thing that came to mind after 10 minutes of blank ideas on the paper

Masherbrum · « **Reply #14 on:** December 10, 2006, 01:14:54 AM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
I think I would say 10 without paroll

Murder is 20, not 10. What you're talking about is "Manslaughter". In the scenario you describe, there is some "premeditation" as he's "tracking him down and killing him."

20 - Life.