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Offline parin

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« on: December 11, 2006, 04:17:54 AM »
Archaius I found that bit about Hartmann and The P-51s Enjoy.

Q: When did you first encounter the American pilots?

A: This was in the defense of Ploesti and Bucharest, and also over Hungary when the bombers came in and they had heavy fighter escort. I was recalled to take over the command I/JG-52, and this was 23 June 1944. B-17s were attacking the railroad junction, and we were formed up. We did not see the Mustangs at first and prepared to attack the bombers. Suddenly four of them flew across us and below, so I gave the order to attack the fighters. I closed in on one and fired, his fighter coming apart and some pieces hit my wings, and I immediately found myself behind another and I fired, and he flipped in. My second flight shot down the other two fighters. But then we saw others and again attacked. I shot down another and saw that the leader still had his drop tanks, which limited his ability to turn.  I was very relieved that this pilot was able to successfully bail out. I was out of ammunition after the fight. But this success was not to be repeated, because the Americans learned and they were not to be ambushed again. They protected the bombers very well, and we were never able to get close enough to do any damage. I did have the opportunity to engage the Mustangs again when a flight was being pursued from the rear and I tried to warn them on the radio, but they could not hear. I dived down and closed on a P-51 that was shooting up an 109, and I blew him up. I half rolled and recovered to fire on another of the three remaining enemy planes and flamed him as well. As soon as that happened I was warned that I had several on my tail so I headed for the deck, a swarm of eight Americans behind me. That is a very uncomfortable feeling I can tell you! I made jerking turns left and right as they fired, but they fired from too far away to be effective. I was headed for the base so the defensive guns would help me, but I ran out of fuel and had to bail out. I was certain that this one pilot was lining me up for a strafe, but he banked away and looked at me, waving. I landed four miles from the base; I almost made it. That day we lost half our aircraft; we were too outnumbered and many of the young pilots were inexperienced.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 12:50:29 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 12:55:30 PM »
Hartmann ran to the ack?  didn't he know how to play fair?  Next you will be telling us he HOed somebody.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 12:56:33 PM »
But the MA isn't a real war.  Using a real wartime experience doesn' t work to justify it.

If we use that, then how bout, because pilots had no choice on what plane they were assigned, that we only put a certain number in LA7s, a certain number in Spit 16s etc.

Let's populate the MA with the majority of players flying less then uber birds as was the case 'for real' during wartime.  Lots of folks gonna be flying Jugs, P40s, 109Gs, Yaks etc.

And again, because wartime pilots were assigned to squadrons, theaters of war, planes etc. , there should be no griping about it cause those guys didn't have a choice.

So if you are stuck in a spot on a map with little action, or in an arena that doesn't fit your taste, so be it.  This is war.  You go where you are told to and do what job you are given! :)
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 01:17:51 PM »
Archaius and I could not remember if Hartmann had bailied at all during his career. Just reminded me of running from the Horde which I do often:lol Some nights I imagine I only have one life and fly that way.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 04:46:09 PM »
Shot down 14 times, according to wiki.  Crash landed or bailed, doesn't say.


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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 02:00:00 AM »
I thought it was 16 times? Most notably he ditched and was picked up by a truckload of Russians, he feigned sickness and  they stoped the truck and let him off (to vomit IIRC) and he escaped.

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 02:32:47 AM »
Originally posted by parin

I dived down and closed on a P-51 that was shooting up an 109, and I blew him up.

Alt monkey ;)

As soon as that happened I was warned that I had several on my tail so I headed for the deck, a swarm of eight Americans behind me.

Me Run-0-9 being chased by gang-bangers :rolleyes:

I made jerking turns left and right as they fired, but they fired from too far away to be effective.

Stick stirring + spray and pray :lol

I was headed for the base so the defensive guns would help me

Ack running dweeb :furious

I was certain that this one pilot was lining me up for a strafe

chute shooter wannabe :p

many of the young pilots were inexperienced.

n00bz!!!!1111!!!! :D

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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 02:40:11 AM »
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Originally posted by kamilyun
Originally posted by parin

I dived down and closed on a P-51 that was shooting up an 109, and I blew him up.

Alt monkey ;)

As soon as that happened I was warned that I had several on my tail so I headed for the deck, a swarm of eight Americans behind me.

Me Run-0-9 being chased by gang-bangers :rolleyes:

I made jerking turns left and right as they fired, but they fired from too far away to be effective.

Stick stirring + spray and pray :lol

I was headed for the base so the defensive guns would help me

Ack running dweeb :furious

I was certain that this one pilot was lining me up for a strafe

chute shooter wannabe :p

many of the young pilots were inexperienced.

n00bz!!!!1111!!!! :D
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 02:49:15 AM »
:rofl


Im almost scared of diving in on an enema with my 109 as the controls gets so heavy real quick. id love to be looking at the expression on Hartmans face as he zoomed by the cockpit in my runstang... you know.. that "oh ****" look :D

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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 03:46:07 AM »
kamilyun :aok :rofl
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2007, 09:04:53 AM »
Thanks Parin, I just found this now.

(I registered here ages ago, before I registered as Archaius)

For whoever asked, Hartmann 'never became another man's victory'. All of the times he was 14 times he was forced down, he managed to ditch or at least crash land safely.

At least, this is what I have read anyway.

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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2007, 10:07:32 AM »
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Originally posted by Nilsen
:rofl


Im almost scared of diving in on an enema with my 109 as the controls gets so heavy real quick. id love to be looking at the expression on Hartmans face as he zoomed by the cockpit in my runstang... you know.. that "oh ****" look :D


I'd be scared of diving in on an enema also !!!

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2007, 11:09:31 AM »
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I'd be scared of diving in on an enema also !!!

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I don't even want to know how to dive in on an enema :O :cry :rofl
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2007, 11:13:40 AM »
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I don't even want to know how to dive in on an enema :O :cry :rofl

Bet he has the high speed tail slide perfected. :D


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