Author Topic: What do you think about this quote? (Read 2769 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:00:55 PM »

cliped from vikings link.

"Holland's Inter-Church Peace Council came to the conclusion that the genocide could have been prevented if the Dutch government and its military leadership in the city had reached other decisions and had negotiated more courageously."

"negotiated more courageously.".........

don't send little boys to do a mans work.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #31 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:26:39 PM »

How bady organized was the Dutch UN force if they, according to the article, "secretly, admired their
(the serbs) tight military organization"

Viking · « **Reply #32 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:27:11 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
don't send little boys to do a mans work.

Thank you for making my point so abundantly clear. They weren't there to fight a war.

Viking · « **Reply #33 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:32:52 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
How bady organized was the Dutch UN force if they, according to the article, "secretly, admired their
(the serbs) tight military organization"

I'm sure you're familiar with the word "accusation". Like the accusations made against Americans using white phosphorus on civilians in Iraq. Both are untrue, or so I choose to believe.

cpxxx · « **Reply #34 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:51:17 PM »

The Dutch military behaved shamefully that day. More accurately their officers did. The ordinary soldier has little control over his fate. The man in the article quite properly feels no guilt. I'm quite sure they would have fought if ordered to. But their officers lacked the guts it seems. The fact of them being outnumbered and outgunned is beside the point. The Serbs knew quite well that a direct attack on a UN contingent would have brought down a world of hurt on them. The Serbs bluffed and won. The Dutch commander effectively surrendered without a shot and then stood by and watched a massacre or it seems even colluded in it.
That is quite properly a disgrace.

Yeager · « **Reply #35 on:** December 18, 2006, 01:57:25 PM »

Next time we take a hit like we did on 9/11 we should stop playing ball with those people and eradicate radical islam in its entirety.

Viking · « **Reply #36 on:** December 18, 2006, 02:00:27 PM »

I once thought as you do Cpxxx, but not anymore. There wasn’t anything Ductbat could have done, and they were under orders to do nothing. The blame of UN inaction in this case lay squarely in New York and Amsterdam.

john9001 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 18, 2006, 03:28:04 PM »

they were there to protect those people, the officer in command should ordered his men to fire on the serbs, and not over their heads.

Toad · « **Reply #38 on:** December 18, 2006, 03:33:09 PM »

Eventually the truth will come out.

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Ten attorneys in Holland and four in Bosnia currently are working on the class action suit. Their criticism of the Dutch Army leadership is based first and foremost upon accounts from such eyewitnesses as Zumra Sehomerovic, 54.

The woman from Srebrenica describes how Dutch soldiers allowed Serb militia leader Ratko Mladic's men to disarm them, without resisting. Some of the Dutch troops even took off their uniforms - and Serbs then slipped them on.

Dutch help

The next day, the Dutch troops lined up with the Serbian Chetniks as if nothing had happened. The UN soldiers had helped to separate the Muslim men from their families. Zumra Sehomerovic saw her husband once more, standing in a ditch on the left side of the road. He was never seen again.

04 July, 2006 SREBRENICA MASSACRE LAWSUIT AGAINST UNITED NATIONS AND DUTCH GOVERNMENT

Viking · « **Reply #39 on:** December 18, 2006, 04:48:25 PM »

Yes the truth will come out, and I think it will vindicate Dutchbatt. That eyewitnesses saw UN personnel help the Serbs comes as no surprise. Serbs and Bosnian impostors often used stolen UN uniforms and body armor, and as the UN soldier in the article I posted said many of the Dutch soldiers were forced to hand over their uniforms at gunpoint.

Viking · « **Reply #40 on:** December 18, 2006, 04:53:34 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
they were there to protect those people, the officer in command should ordered his men to fire on the serbs, and not over their heads.

What would that have accomplished? Nothing more than adding 350 Dutch soldiers to the death toll.

I know you Americans are fond of self sacrifice and all. Your movies are full of examples of glorifying selfless acts of sacrifice, but when all you can hope to achieve is your own death it’s called foolishness.

Toad · « **Reply #41 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:23:09 PM »

Tell that to the graves of the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae.

Had the Dutch acted, the rest of the UN troops would have HAD to get involved. But then, not untypically, they have the same attitude towards sacrifice that you apparently hold.

I'd rather be a dead Spartan than a live coward that stood by and watched a massacre of innocent civilians.

Viking · « **Reply #42 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:36:06 PM »

Yes, an excellent example of glorious self sacrifice you Americans like so much. How brave of you to call them cowards from the comforts of your home. You’re the coward sir.

john9001 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:58:00 PM »

vikings real name is quisling.

Viking · « **Reply #44 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:04:25 PM »

Hello Benedict