Hitech

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
I want to know how he got to the ground in one piece.  If I bail anywhere near an enemy field, I'm perforated by flak long before I open my parachute.  How in the world does an anti-aircraft gunner consistantly hit a human falling at terminal velocity?  I've always said that anti-aircraft fire was too accurate.

They pay the extra $2.95 per month for ubatonium body armor.



Bronk

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Bronk
Gee 400 mph closure rate with a moving gun platform.  Can't understand why it would be hard to hit a small gun emplacement with a non explosive round.

Once again IF you hit it it goes poof .


Bronk

I fly a 50 cal plane almost exclusively and what SkyRock is referring to is that one has to strafe the crap out of a gun emplacment to get it to go poof ... all the while it is shooting at you (u make it sound easier that it really is)

Also, from what I gather in this thread, the guns are NOT shooting at the lil dude on the ground ... which they should be.

Even if one is spraying at a gun emplacement while going 400 mph on a moving platform, some of those 50 cals have to hit home with a lot more devasting effect than some hand-held .45.

[nexus69]

Originally posted by Souless
Sigh your not the sharpest tool in the shed are ya? Little slow out of the gate thats ok.
As Skyrock replies below if 50 cals from planes cant do it...well should I continue or do you get it now?
Please next time think before you actually try and reply to something.

Geez!  you must be retarded ( my apologies to the mentally challenged community)  Read Bronk's post  and maybe.. just maybe you will understand the concept small objects, moving, etc.......

It is difficult to fly like an eagle when you are working with turkeys.

[Deth7]

Easy remedy, get in a field gun and kill the guy runnin to a gun:D

[Bronk]

Originally posted by SlapShot
I fly a 50 cal plane almost exclusively and what SkyRock is referring to is that one has to strafe the crap out of a gun emplacment to get it to go poof ... all the while it is shooting at you (u make it sound easier that it really is)

Also, from what I gather in this thread, the guns are NOT shooting at the lil dude on the ground ... which they should be.

Even if one is spraying at a gun emplacement while going 400 mph on a moving platform, some of those 50 cals have to hit home with a lot more devasting effect than some hand-held .45.

Slappy my reply to skyrock was sarcastic.
Also thats what i was getting at in the second post thats why the rolling eyes.

I don't know about the NOT shooting the little dudes. But I'm thinking someone was in the manned gun  didn't see the little dude and got popped. Bet the auto was down already.

Ohh and one well placed .45 to the head is just as dead as many .50 all over.

Bronk

[Benny Moore]

If you watch carefully, zoomed in, you can see that the guns sometimes take quite a few fifty caliber rounds (actually hitting the gun) and sometimes go down with just a couple.  It looks to me - although I am only speculating - that the damage model for the ground guns is rather complex, simulating hitting critical areas such as the crew (although they are not graphically portrayed).  I wish Hitech would clear this up.

[Bronk]

Film off line set to MA spec.

GV base well because I'd not try to deack even a small field alone.

http://www.speedyshare.com/646650358.html


3 passes 3 dead gun emplacements.

Since I'm a n00b anyone can do it.

As for bigger bases just takes more friends.


Bronk


Edit: Same set up but over nit gv base so guns only fire at me.
http://www.speedyshare.com/996166271.html

[Apeking]

"I want to know how he got to the ground in one piece. If I bail anywhere near an enemy field, I'm perforated by flak long before I open my parachute."

My tactic is to bail out about thirty or forty miles away from the enemy base, so that I'm far out of range of the flak, and also so that the enemy does not suspect that I am about to pay a visit. I then slowly make my way to the target, hiding in trees along the way. I only move during the twilight hours. For my final approach I take cover behind hangars and buildings so that the flak guns cannot hit me.

I have rehearsed myself thoroughly, and after six months of this I have managed to pare my sortie time down to about eight hours. It takes a further twelve hours to return on foot to my home base, but I just rest a paperweight on the R key and leave the machine on overnight. If I die, I die. Obviously I don't land any kills this way, but I want to immerse myself in the magic of Aces High.

On a more serious level, I wonder how long before the wishlist fills up with requests for people to control the paratroopers directly, with sniper rifles and bazookas etc?

The bullets pass, Mussolini remains.

[Murdr]

Its no rocket science.  It takes damage equivelent of 6.2 lbs of ord to kill ack.  20mm equate to between 3.5 to 4 lbs of ord (depending on gun type), and "close" counts due to blast radius.  .50 cals equate to 1.17 lbs or ord, but you have to actually strike the 3d object with the bullets to score damage.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Bronk
Gee 400 mph closure rate with a moving gun platform.  Can't understand why it would be hard to hit a small gun emplacement with a non explosive round.

Once again IF you hit it it goes poof .


Bronk

Bronk, I take them down plenty!  It's just not easy to do and it takes a good burst of direct hits!

[Apeking]

"a good burst of direct hits!"

I've just had a go with the Hurricane IA. 8x303s seemed to take out the guns easily enough, albeit that I was lining up carefully without fear of the bad noises happening to my plane. The rate of fire must compensates for the lack of oomph and for my poor aim.

"It takes the damage equivalent of 6.2 outdated imperial lbs of ord to kill ack. The old-fashioned imperial .50 cal equates to 1.17 racist slaveowning lbs of ord"

This implies that the game's Colt 1911 fires with the power of a .50 sniper rifle! Without any recoil!

[Bronk]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Bronk, I take them down plenty!  It's just not easy to do and it takes a good burst of direct hits!

Sky was just poking ya in the ribs in that 1st post.

But i disagree it takes more of a set up with .50s is all.

But you are correct in one thing it takes direct hits. We are cannon spoiled.

Bronk

[sax]

Would Hitech be able to answer this please .

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Also, from what I gather in this thread, the guns are NOT shooting at the lil dude on the ground ... which they should be.

Ahh, but they are.  Sometimes you just run into a de-acked field or one with the auto-ack down and the manned gun(s) still alive.  If auto-ack is up you're one dead little dude.

[pigface]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
Fun with .45's:

Stand in the map room and kill loads of troops while also scoring proxie kills on awsome LW planes (I had 6 one night).

Kill the manned ack at any field.

Stand on an enemy runway in front of where the planes spawn placing a single shot into the engine area.   High likelyhood of watching a smoker leave the runway and a possible kill if patient.

Stand on an enemy runway NEXT to where the planes spawn.  Aim directly for the pilot's head giving him a pilot wound before he even gets rolling (this one is particularily fun).  If he actually takes off a kill is almost guaranteed.

Why have a .45 in hand if you can't have some fun with it?

This is the best entry here... Playing on the runway with my .45 is a perfect way to take a break from all that flyin. Get out and stretch your legs and shoot someone.

Peace,