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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2007, 04:00:29 PM »
Sending a blatantly vulgar e-mail will simply reinforce this individuals bias. Sending a regular e-mail might at least get read but don't assume it means anything as far as changing their minds.

I found his "article" regarding terrorism to be interesting but only given the authors background in connection with those who form this so called institute.  

Board of Directors:

Afser Shariff, M.D. –Director of Communications and Media Relations

Afshan Siddiqi – Administrative Director

Farid Senzai, Ph.D. Candidate – Fellow and Director of Research

Iltefat Hamzavi, M.D. – Executive Director

Mazen Asbahi, J.D. – Member, ISPU Board of Directors

Muzammil Ahmed, M.D – Development Officer

Zareena Grewal, Ph.D Candidate – Fellow and Research Committee Member




"Advisors" to the institute:

Dr. Akbar Ahmed
Professor & Chair of Islamic Studies
American University

Dr. Aminah McCloud
Professor
DePaul University

Dr. James Piscatori
Professor
Oxford University

Dr. Muneer Fareed
Professor
Wayne State University

David Bonior
Former Congressman
U.S. House of Representative

Dr. John Esposito
Professor and Founding Director
Center for Christian-Muslim Understanding Georgetown University

Dr. Sherman Jackson
Professor
University of Michigan

Dr. Sulayman Nyang
Professor
Howard University


Do you notice anything rather striking about the make up of this "institute" that might perhaps indicate it is less than neutral regarding the ME.?? Any idea why they would want an unarmed population?

The idea that a right granted in the Bill of Rights which were written to prohibit the Govt. from trampling on individual rights is somehow attributed to some group or govt. function is male bovine excrement. The Bill of Rights was and IS about individual Rights, not some group or govt. agency. Why any group would be interested in eroding the few rights guaranteed by the constitution is mind boggling and should instantly put them (IMO) on a watch list for groups that want to take down the govt. of this nation.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2007, 04:29:56 PM »
Anybody notice how this type of "expert" has come crawling out of the woodwork since the dems took Congress away from the Repubs in the last election?

Could there POSSIBLY be a CONNECTION?  :O
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2007, 09:22:18 PM »
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More than 50 percent of the gun owners were college educated and earned more than $50,000 per year.



The horror :O !!!

Really though, this is pretty typical opinion editorial, which, as someone said, is basically garbage trying to provoke a response.  It swings both ways.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2007, 08:54:02 AM »
yep...no one can deny that putting the democrats in power will bring out all the anti gun nuts.    

We will see hundreds of nut job gun laws being  put forth... every one of em unconstitutional and every one of em aimed at making criminals out of citizens who own firearms.

If you think the second is important but voted democrat then you are either a hypocrite or an idiot or both.

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2007, 09:24:31 AM »
The guy is obviously a terrorist.  The name is, of course, suspect but the dead giveaway is that he admitted that he wanted the public disarmed.  Only liars claim that disarming the public will disarm criminals.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2007, 09:38:51 AM »
So long as guns remain available to the general public, there will always be the threat of holy martyrs walking into a crowded restaurant, a busy coffee shop or a packed movie theater and opening fire upon unsuspecting infidels...
... and being shot down like a pig by an armed infidel in self defense is what he fears I think.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2007, 12:12:21 PM »
Put a democrat in the white house in '08 and say goodbye to what's left of the second amendment.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2007, 12:25:40 PM »
Is the Second American Revolution any closer yet?
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2007, 12:37:24 PM »
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Put a democrat in the white house in '08 and say goodbye to what's left of the second amendment.


Doubtful.   Assault rifle-armed Paul Hackett chases men down

Not saying I support him for President, but to show you not all Democrats are anti-gun.   Neither are all Republicans pro-gun.   My dear mom, for example, votes Republican but has heard enough of school shootings that she believes gun ownership should be restricted and handguns eliminated.    Good thing abortion is her singular motivating political issue.

FWIW, I think the guy's interpretation of the 2nd amendment is the correct for an Originalist.   That's why I think the 2nd should be augmented with specific language permanently supporting gun ownership without reference or dependence on a 'militia'.     I also agree with the author that the US military would win every confrontation with unorganized gun owners if it should come to armed revolt.     I completely disagree with the guy's assertion that public gun ownership is an obsolete idea.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2007, 12:43:28 PM »
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I also agree with the author that the US military would win every confrontation with unorganized gun owners if it should come to armed revolt.    


I disagree with you and him.  I give American citizens more credit than Iraqis and Syrians, and they're doing an alright job at the moment.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2007, 12:50:20 PM »
The people of England rose up and defeated their government with nary a firearm one in the movie "V"

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2007, 01:02:51 PM »
Second Revolution...whatever...not gonna happen. So long as we have Cable, the internet, and the Simpsons on television, Americans have far more important things to do than get into a row with their neighbors. It's no longer in our nature to stand up and fight for what's rightfully ours, or what we believe to be rightfully ours.

FWIW, most people shouldn't be driving cars let alone owning firearms. Most people can't drive, and far more wouldn't know Rule #1 about owning and handling a weapon.

ban automobiles!
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2007, 01:14:53 PM »
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I also agree with the author that the US military would win every confrontation with unorganized gun owners if it should come to armed revolt.


I think the key point would be that the threat of armed resistance would force our soldiers to actually kill their American brothers and sisters vs. using some of the non-lethal technologies that are coming into use. Therefore, that presents a far higher hurdle for some tyrant, even if he has some degree of philosophical support among the military in general. Plus, if you add up the numbers the armed forces would potentially face some Very long odds given gun ownership statistics (though obviously some significant percent of the citizens would likely support the tyrant since tyrants can't usually stand on thier own).


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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2007, 01:24:05 PM »
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The people of England rose up and defeated their government with nary a firearm one in the movie "V"



As real world examples, look at the fall of communism across eastern Europe in 1989.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2007, 01:37:58 PM »
Americans had no problem killing each other in the Civil War.   It's still the highest death toll of any U.S. war, correct?

I think you're not being realistic.
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