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Offline macleod01

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2007, 08:33:30 PM »
lol, thought you were testing how hardy the hurricane is by flying her into the ground
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2007, 03:50:20 AM »
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lol, thought you were testing how hardy the hurricane is by flying her into the ground



Very much so. At that angle you could probably land "wheels up" :).



Krusty.... thanks a lot for your sleepless nights, filled with nightmares of me ;).
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2007, 10:01:46 AM »
Ditto that Schatzi. Im just kinda disappolinted that it wont be my name by the side. Oh well, plenty more skins on the net! Good job Krusty. Thanks for taking over
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2007, 11:54:30 AM »
started a mk2c that was the later of this plane, finished it, and submitted got no responce from hitech, shortly after i took a break from AH. and now that im back i wanna see my baby flying in the sky. anyone mind to do some nitpicking on it?







and krusty if you want any of the textures or markings, just ask, dont mind sharing my work. im just here as a way for this bird to get in the air.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2007, 11:56:51 AM by Toadflak »

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2007, 12:07:43 PM »
Sure you have the right lower wing roundels on the IIc?

Fuselage and tail are the early type 'A' roundels, the lower ones are type 'C'.
Lower type 'A' are 3 equal sized rings. (like the fuselage one but without the yellow outer ring)

[edit] No lower roundels on this one.

Also codes look too low -see pic (ignore colors they are washed out)

« Last Edit: February 07, 2007, 12:13:20 PM by Kev367th »
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2007, 12:18:13 PM »
Going by the photos I have of the Mk.I, the "A" would be in front of the roundel on both sides.

Also, you have some white on the port gun barrel shrouds. I'm not sure what's up with that.

As mentioned the roundels

Oh, and your blue/white/red stripes under the cockpit seem a bit long and too far aft. They are crossing the panel line and they should be in front of it

I think the ribs on your ailerons are quite pronounced, and either way, the elevators/rudder/ailerons should all look similar becase they were all fabric-covered. I'd suggest either making the rudder/elevators look like the ailerons, or vice versa, but not mixed.

EDIT: Oh, and you've got white rings around the gear. This was on the hurr1 template as well. You'll need to remove those.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2007, 09:20:08 PM »
I've got a problem....

The canopy can be made red, except for one part. The front of it. This uses the inside of the cockpit. If I change the color on that part to red, the inside of the canopy also goes red.

Normally I'd sacrifice a bit elsewhere to get the proper external colors going, but I don't know if folks would like flying with a bright red interior....

You be the judge (image scaled down for size reasons).




If I leave it default the entire frame around the armored glass is black (but not any of the arms reaching to it).

P.S. Don't ask about the little black squares at the bottom of the armor frame, I can't fix that unless I make huge parts of the instrument panel bright red.

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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2007, 09:57:47 PM »
More, outside of the canopy area.




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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2007, 03:49:57 AM »
Dang, thats a tough one Krusty.

I guess id accept it either way, but that bright red definitly throws me a bit. Would get used to it probably tho.

How odd would it look if that amor glass frame would be black on the outside? Also, I dont know what HTC acceptance of "altering" the skins exteriour would be.... I guess my point is: how often does someone get close enough in the Arena to actually SEE that the single cockpit frame isnt red on the outside?


Also a question on your screenshots..... on some the headrest is red too, on others it isnt.... whats that mean? Do you plan on making the ENTIRE cockpit inside red, instead of only the one frame?
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2007, 12:17:46 PM »
When you zoom in close enough, you display the cockpit. The cockpit has the green parts already set up.

However, when you zoom out and the pilot appears you're not viewing the cockpit, you're just viewing the continuation of what's on the fuselage (in this case, the red canopy color). Newer models have fixed this, but the hurr1 is a "Geneation 1" model, and has many flaws.

Schatzi, the enemy won't be the ones appreciating the red canopy, it'll be the person flying it. I'll post a screenshot of what it looks like black.

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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2007, 12:48:24 PM »
Hrm... I've discovered something odd....

The black frame only shows up when zoomed in so far that the pilot disappears. Outside of this it's red. This is very strange.



One side shows it just outside the point where the pilot disappears, and the other just past the point where the cockpit kicks in.


I think I might leave the interior untouched, and if folks want to see the red on the outside all they have to do is zoom out a bit.

EDIT: Oh and I've got an idea for minimizing the large red area behind the pilot. I'll post some more screenshots later.

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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2007, 11:10:10 PM »
Oh, enemies get CLOSE. I was gonna link to a picture but I cannot find it. Suffice to say I spent about 30 seconds straight about 5 feet from a P-51. We were inverted and stalled, and he was about 5 feet below me. When I went back and checked his view I could count the pannel lines and rivets on the bottom of my wing. Recently, especially in the Hurricane, ive been getting VERY close, normally in scissors. And I know a missing bar like that would be unendingly annoying, but since the red appears when you zoom out I can live with it ;)

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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2007, 04:05:51 AM »
Serenity, when youll be meeting a HMk1 in your 2C, youll definitly have other troubles then its canopy frames :).


Krusty, since the black appears only at very close range, Id like to agree on the interior with you. Id rather forego the.... satin red looks of the cockpit .
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2007, 12:25:05 PM »
I was able to get rid of the red on the sides behind the canopy when zoomed out, but not the red behind the pilot's seat. Oh well, it looks better to me.

I think I'm almost done. I don't have much experience weathering black like this. I tried some new things I've been thinking about since I did that Ki84 a while ago. Let me know what you think.





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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2007, 12:32:08 PM »
Looks good krusty!
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