Author Topic: They can tell what your going to do before you do it?  (Read 410 times)

Offline wrag

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« on: February 09, 2007, 04:34:20 AM »
Sure sounds like that is what their claiming

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2009229,00.html

Thinkin some spouses would LOVE to be able to use this on their significant other!
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 07:36:28 AM »
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The use of brain scanners to judge whether people are likely to commit crimes is a contentious issue that society should tackle now, according to Prof Haynes. "We see the danger that this might become compulsory one day, but we have to be aware that if we prohibit it, we are also denying people who aren't going to commit any crime the possibility of proving their innocence."


If they ever do this, England would be the first (considering their "progressiveness" regarding the ban on guns..:rolleyes: )

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 07:42:15 AM »
Says the test has so far been 70% accurate.

How much you wanna bet the vast majority of the 30% where it wasnt accurate were women.


IMO this should never ever. no matter how accurate it becomes be allowed into the legal system

But it very well may.

Just one step closer to legislating thought
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2007, 09:01:24 AM »
You disappoint me my dear DRED...


   BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPPPPP P!


   there.....

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2007, 10:06:06 AM »
I guess Lombroso was ahead of his time.

The scary part is that back then we seemed to be a country of thinkers and dismissed this type of thing with the disdain it deserved.

Now with our ridiculous  proactive, preemptive nature, I'm sure we will follow the Brits over the cliff on this on.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2007, 10:15:52 AM »
anyone read the article fully?


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During the study, the researchers asked volunteers to decide whether to add or subtract two numbers they were later shown on a screen.

Before the numbers flashed up, they were given a brain scan using a technique called functional magnetic imaging resonance. The researchers then used a software that had been designed to spot subtle differences in brain activity to predict the person's intentions with 70% accuracy.

The study revealed signatures of activity in a marble-sized part of the brain called the medial prefrontal cortex that changed when a person intended to add the numbers or subtract them.


the whole "crime prevention" is just "oh noes-ism" by the author and 1 guy saying they should have an ethical debate now, before the "technology" is invented.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2007, 12:50:24 PM »
would not work on me, i use the ninja mind block.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2007, 05:54:15 PM »
This technology has a major draw back. It cannot tell the difference between you preparing to lie to a direct question and you worring about the lie you think you will have to tell your boss, wife, etc...about being picked up for interrogation while you are being interrogated.

Also you can mess with the program by first thinking about the lie which will be the answer you won't give before you say something. All they will know is that part of your brain is active. Every last one of us lies in our brains as part of our fantasy world. When they can pickup and decode into a reliable media format your bioelectrical impulses which corrispond to thought, then they might have something.

But then again we all have an ongoing fantasy world such as most of us think in passing about killing someone in our fantasies. It helps resolve subconsious stress. So then the nanny state scans our brains and sends us to jail for having   over the legal amount of daily fantasies about killing someone.....

U.K. scientists have found genetic markers which to them  indicate the children of criminals will become criminals. But then the test subjects tended to not be in high crime group  minorities but native britons.......they have had discussions since 2000 about placing those children of criminals on watch lists............If you google around for awhile some of those articles should still be available.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2007, 06:08:44 PM »
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Originally posted by FiLtH
You disappoint me my dear DRED...


   BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPPPPP P!


   there.....


LOL ok..how?
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 06:19:23 PM »
Big Deal...This is old news.  I developed a similar machine in 1998, and used it on the brains of scientist developing this machine, so I already knew they were intending to build it.
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