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Offline jhookt

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« on: February 13, 2007, 11:24:07 AM »
opinions?

personnally i think marty's coaching ability has been underrated in the NFL. Granted he has yet to have any success in the post season he has done some remarkable turn arounds for San Diego and KC(even tho the fruits were never realized)

 why do you suppose franchises fail to allow marty to take teams to glory when other franchises allow coaches like mike shannahan continue to have dismal seasons?

too much instant gratification in the NFL?

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 11:27:42 AM »
He's always been the bridesmaid and I believe Wade Phillips STAYING in San Diego, would have secured Marty's job.   But, when Wade left, Marty was on the chopping block.

A shame San Diego was so close, now, it'll be crappy for em.   How in the hell they are already favored to win next year's Super Bowl is beyond me.  Indy and NE have a better team.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 11:49:14 AM »
He was fired because he got sideways with the GM. It's like any other job, interpersonal relationships and office politics are important. The fans just aren't aware of that and so they focus on the on-the-field performance.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 01:19:02 PM »
Wade Phillips will be run out of dallas in a year. Jerry Jones must be losing his mind to think this guy can put up ith the prima donnas like TO , Terry Glenn, and Bono.

On the flip side, Demarcus Ware should have a monster year, with that attacking style defense Phillips is known for.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 01:24:57 PM »
Anyone watching the SD/NE game knows why he was fired. Personally I am glad, being from Indiana, but man, what dumb, dumb coaching in places during that game. No way NE should have won. The only way for them to win was for SD to hand it to them, which they did.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 01:34:30 PM »
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He's always been the bridesmaid and I believe Wade Phillips STAYING in San Diego, would have secured Marty's job.   But, when Wade left, Marty was on the chopping block.

A shame San Diego was so close, now, it'll be crappy for em.   How in the hell they are already favored to win next year's Super Bowl is beyond me.  Indy and NE have a better team.


Indy has a salary cap problem, and likely to lose either Freeney (likely franchised though), Harper, June, and Rhodes.

Of those, Rhodes is almost certainly gone. That means they'll have to find another RB for their 2-back system. That won't necessarily be easy with the draft pick they have. Next gone is probably Harper. That one doesn't bother me so much, because he's been hurt more than not, and it hasn't hurt them all that much in the long haul. With Bob Sanders healthy, and keeping Dwight Freeney, I would imagine the defense will be okay- not great, but okay.

Indy's schedule next year will be tough.

Indy may lose some coaching. We'll see how that pans out. I hear SD is looking for coaches. ;)

All-in-all I'd say it'll be pretty tough for Indy to repeat.

I think NE may even be worse off. They are going to lose some key defensive players to free agency. They have done as well at anyone in replacing their talent, but I believe there's only so much you can overcome.

Chicago has the best chance to get back to the dance if you ask me. Replace one player and they are sitting pretty atop the NFC again. Jeff Garcia? Donovan McNabb? Imagine... stability in the quarterback slot. That's all it would have taken this year. Chicago could be sitting back with homefield advantage throughout playoffs again next year, no problem.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2007, 02:03:45 PM »
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He was fired because he got sideways with the GM. It's like any other job, interpersonal relationships and office politics are important. The fans just aren't aware of that and so they focus on the on-the-field performance.


That is "what is being said".   Schottenheimer is the fall guy.   They were 14-2 for pete's sake!
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2007, 02:44:12 PM »
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Anyone watching the SD/NE game knows why he was fired. Personally I am glad, being from Indiana, but man, what dumb, dumb coaching in places during that game. No way NE should have won. The only way for them to win was for SD to hand it to them, which they did.

hi Kieran. Long time!

Agreed, that was some pathetic coaching.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 03:10:22 PM »
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Wade Phillips will be run out of dallas in a year. Jerry Jones must be losing his mind to think this guy can put up ith the prima donnas like TO , Terry Glenn, and Bono.

On the flip side, Demarcus Ware should have a monster year, with that attacking style defense Phillips is known for.
Terry Glenn has been VERY productive since coming to Dallas and nothing ego related has surfaced that I've heard of. Who is Bono? Did Jerry buy U2???

I think Wade may have one of the longer runs as Head Coach under JJ.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 03:19:13 PM »
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TO , Terry Glenn, and Bono.

On the flip side, Demarcus Ware should have a monster year, with that attacking style defense Phillips is known for.


You mean ROMO?   :rofl
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 03:59:39 PM »
Hello, Rip!

Romo got a bad deal on that. Bad snaps can happen to anyone. I'd say he had a pretty good season all said and done. He doesn't deserve nearly the hatred someone like, say, Rex deserves.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 04:04:56 PM »
Wasn't Romo's fault. That was Quest Field noise, Romo can thank my wife and oldest son, who were part of that noise that night. :D

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 05:17:33 PM »
I think the moisture and brand new leather had more to do with it than noise. BTW, how did Seattle do the next week?
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 05:40:39 PM »
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No way NE should have won. The only way for them to win was for SD to hand it to them, which they did.


Hell the Bears got nearly half the wins they had this year that way
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2007, 06:49:51 PM »
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Anyone watching the SD/NE game knows why he was fired. Personally I am glad, being from Indiana, but man, what dumb, dumb coaching in places during that game. No way NE should have won. The only way for them to win was for SD to hand it to them, which they did.


No, it was not handed to them, they took it away from the Chargers, and i'll explain. In almost every close game a play is made that changes the game. With about six minutes left in the game, the Pats faced a fourth and five. On the fourth down play Brady is picked off, game over right? Wrong.

A play was made.

Troy Brown, the savvy 35 year old receiver stripped the defender of the ball. Pats recover and drive to score the tying TD.

That is not having it handed to you, that is taking it away from them.

It's the NFL, no one gives you anything, you take it from them.
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