Author Topic: ace pilots (Read 5660 times)

wrag · « **Reply #165 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:05:52 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I give up. It's hopeless.

And you sir are also an authority on ALL computer systems and how they preform?

Bronk · « **Reply #166 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:06:52 PM »

Wrag, seriously there is a lag between what your front end/cpu detects and your opponents.

But the time difference between what your cpu detects and what you see?
I'd bet the amount time is so small no human has a reaction time that could utilize that difference.

Just accept the fact that your not perfect and accidents happen.

Bronk

hitech · « **Reply #167 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:49:24 AM »

wrag: Your assessment is inncorect. The difference between AH film play back and what was displayed originally is so small (talking an inch or 2) that for all intensive purposes they are the same.

HiTech

Bronk · « **Reply #168 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:16:51 AM »

So how much time does "an inch or 2" equate to at say.... just 60 mph?

Bronk

wrag · « **Reply #169 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:41:43 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
wrag: Your assessment is inncorect. The difference between AH film play back and what was displayed originally is so small (talking an inch or 2) that for all intensive purposes they are the same.

HiTech

Well dang it!!

Now are we taking into account vid drivers, stuff running in the background, etc....

Cause the reason I upgraded was due to some long talks/email discussions between myself and another HTC person. Tried everything recommended and still seemed to have that latency/lag issue.

I like to get in close sometimes. But was noticing a certain LAG. Planes did NOT SEEM to be where I saw them? I could watch my tracers SEEM to pass right through them but when I played back the film the tracers just barely missed.

Thinkin due to several things within my old system, SEEMED like at times I was 1/8 to 1/2 a second behind other AH sim'ers. Sure seemed like it anyways AND after I got a new MB, CPU, VID CARD, SOUND CARD, and proper drivers that SEEMED to stop!

And I ran virus, spyware, trojan, etc. sweeps constantly, still do.

Using FSautostart also.

"Just accept the fact that your not perfect and accidents happen."

Geez Bronk where you get the idea I think I'm perfect? Ya I know accidents happen. I say nothing when they do.

Haven't you gotten into any close fight lately? Possibly by accident or just to many jumpin ya?

Gotten so some don't even try to avoid a collision but repeatedly try to put their plane in the same space as yours rather then avoid. It's like they hope for a collision and that they will survive it.

Not talkin nose to nose here. Talkin your on a 6, just settled in after doin some acm to get there, and they jink and bob and at just the right moment they try to occupy the space your in. Not once, not twice but over and over. I can usually avoid and REMAIN on the 6, and shoot em down... but, i've lost one or 2 fights due to this. They pulled up, or down or left, or right, into me and I lost the fight due to the collision. It's like their aimming for you with the back, or side, or whatever part of their plane they think they can hit you with. Usually happens REAL FAST TOO.

Think thats why some in here are complainin. SEEMS there are some using the collision model against others.

I'm NOT saying there is anything wrong with the collision model. IMHO it works as intended and HT has done a good job.

Bronk · « **Reply #170 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:52:31 AM »

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Originally posted by wrag
Well dang it!!

Now are we taking into account vid drivers, stuff running in the background, etc....

Cause the reason I upgraded was due to some long talks/email discussions between myself and another HTC person. Tried everything recommended and still seemed to have that latency/lag issue.

I like to get in close sometimes. But was noticing a certain LAG. Planes did NOT SEEM to be where I saw them? I could watch my tracers SEEM to pass right through them but when I played back the film the tracers just barely missed.

Thinkin due to several things within my old system, SEEMED like at times I was 1/8 to 1/2 a second behind other AH sim'ers. Sure seemed like it anyways AND after I got a new MB, CPU, VID CARD, SOUND CARD, and proper drivers that SEEMED to stop!

And I ran virus, spyware, trojan, etc. sweeps constantly, still do.

Using FSautostart also.

Sounds like an ISP issue then.

"Just accept the fact that your not perfect and accidents happen."

Geez Bronk where you get the idea I think I'm perfect? Ya I know accidents happen. I say nothing when they do.

Haven't you gotten into any close fight lately? Possibly by accident or just to many jumpin ya?

Already stated it happens to me.

Gotten so some don't even try to avoid a collision but repeatedly try to put their plane in the same space as yours rather then avoid. It's like they hope for a collision and that they will survive it.

Not talkin nose to nose here. Talkin your on a 6, just settled in after doin some acm to get there, and they jink and bob and at just the right moment they try to occupy the space your in. Not once, not twice but over and over. I can usually avoid and REMAIN on the 6, and shoot em down... but, i've lost one or 2 fights due to this. They pulled up, or down or left, or right, into me and I lost the fight due to the collision. It's like their aimming for you with the back, or side, or whatever part of their plane they think they can hit you with. Usually happens REAL FAST TOO.

Think thats why some in here are complainin. SEEMS there are some using the collision model against others.

I'm NOT saying there is anything wrong with the collision model. IMHO it works as intended and HT has done a good job.

Like I said what it looks like to you can look remarkably different on your enemy's. Now that we know the film viewer is for "all intensive purposes" accurate. Try rethinking this a bit.

Bronk

Edbert · « **Reply #171 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:46:05 PM »

Makes ya wonder what the point of the air-racing is...

Three guys could all show film proving they won and they'd all be right and wrong at the same time

Ghastly · « **Reply #172 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:08:55 PM »

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SEEMS there are some using the collision model against others.

Actually, I have seen someone who may have TRIED, and within the constraints of his methodology he was using if he was, was actually fairly good at it. But it was so obvious - and so easy to defeat once you saw it the first time - that it almost doesn't count if it was a deliberate attempt at causing you to collide. And it only worked because he carefully set things up so that he could predict your movement pretty precisely- and he may have simply been trying to get guns on rather than working for the collision to begin with.

And since he'd have to time it perfectly, I'll bet he died to it more often than not regardless of which he was working for.

If anyone out there is good enough to time it so that their aircraft consistently intersects same space as their enemy's on a machine which is an unknown latency away while consistently avoiding it on their own, they are good enough to hand me my butt without risking a collision in the first place.