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« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2007, 09:45:52 AM »
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What are you talking about?  we were having trouble finding cities to firebomb in  japan... they were all rubble.   we were flying unescorted B29's and dropping tons of bombs on them and they could do nothing more than shake sticks at us.
 


A pretty exaggeration Lassie, but an exaggeration none the less. Japan’s urban areas suffered approximately 30% damage from the American bombing raids according to USAAF reports. Compared to Germany’s 80% close to 90% in some areas Japan got off easy. Japan’s destruction was more on the scale of that suffered by Britain. London suffered 35% damage. Coventry suffered 75% damage in 10 hours of continual air bombardment (30,000 incendiary bombs were dropped and 500 tons of conventional bombs), Birmingham 30-50% depending on source, Liverpool 30%. Many other British cities suffered heavy damage as well.
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« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2007, 10:04:08 AM »
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A pretty exaggeration Lassie, but an exaggeration none the less. Japan’s urban areas suffered approximately 30% damage from the American bombing raids according to USAAF reports. Compared to Germany’s 80% close to 90% in some areas Japan got off easy. Japan’s destruction was more on the scale of that suffered by Britain. London suffered 35% damage. Coventry suffered 75% damage in 10 hours of continual air bombardment (30,000 incendiary bombs were dropped and 500 tons of conventional bombs), Birmingham 30-50% depending on source, Liverpool 30%. Many other British cities suffered heavy damage as well.


Correct , but England was being continually resupplied.
While Japan's war materials were all but exhausted.

What situation would you rather be in for a prolonged fight?


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« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2007, 10:23:41 AM »
Scholzie, get real. Here are some items for you.
1. Japan's Urban areas were only bombed for a few months in WW2. It was just starting.
2. The English avenged all their bombed civilians before 1943. Actually, they almost returned the numbers from the London blitz in a single raid on Hamburg in 1943.
3. The LW could not bomb Britain in 1941 in daylight, while the Allies gradually gained enough power to reduce German cities into rubble, be it day or night.
4. While Britain had their darkest days between the fall of France and the conclusion of the BoB, it is not compareable to the German situation in 1944, - Germany was defitately screwed beyond any doubt from the summer of 1944. (Navy? LW? Resources? Enemies?)

So, in Lazs's words, the Gerries and the Japs were really clear suicide kings.
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« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2007, 10:30:46 AM »
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Fresh water will be worth it's weight in gold in the not so distance future and people will fight and die for it.
 


For Chrissakes! Drop the bowl and stop watching "Ice Pirates." If weed doesn't rot your brain that film surely will.
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« Reply #124 on: March 09, 2007, 10:35:06 AM »
"Ice Pirate"?
Sounds like home :D
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« Reply #125 on: March 09, 2007, 10:36:15 AM »
What the hell is "Ice Pirates"?
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« Reply #126 on: March 09, 2007, 11:07:11 AM »
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What the hell is "Ice Pirates"?


http://imdb.com/title/tt0087451/


ZOMG TeH space herpes .

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« Reply #127 on: March 09, 2007, 11:31:14 AM »
funny movie, almost as good as "time bandits"
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« Reply #128 on: March 09, 2007, 11:32:58 AM »
time bandits!

top ten.  definitely one of the classics.
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« Reply #129 on: March 09, 2007, 01:37:44 PM »
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Correct , but England was being continually resupplied.
While Japan's war materials were all but exhausted.

What situation would you rather be in for a prolonged fight?
 


Neither. ;)



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Scholzie, get real.  


I assure you I am quite real.


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1. Japan's Urban areas were only bombed for a few months in WW2. It was just starting.
 


I was comparing the damage sustained by Japan when they surrendered with the damage sustained by the British when they didn’t surrender. Stop trying to turn this into a pissing contest.


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2. The English avenged all their bombed civilians before 1943. Actually, they almost returned the numbers from the London blitz in a single raid on Hamburg in 1943.


What has this got to do with anything? Stop trying to turn this into a pissing contest.


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3. The LW could not bomb Britain in 1941 in daylight, while the Allies gradually gained enough power to reduce German cities into rubble, be it day or night.


What has this got to do with anything? Stop trying to turn this into a pissing contest.


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4. While Britain had their darkest days between the fall of France and the conclusion of the BoB, it is not compareable to the German situation in 1944, - Germany was defitately screwed beyond any doubt from the summer of 1944. (Navy? LW? Resources? Enemies?)


Who is comparing Britain with Germany? I certainly wasn’t. And WHY are you comparing Britain to Germany in a thread about Hiroshima and the Japanese surrender? Stop trying to turn this into a pissing contest.

You always do this in every discussion.
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« Reply #130 on: March 09, 2007, 01:43:09 PM »
I used to be able to piss over 9 feet distance and achieve maximum stream altitude of just over 6 feet.  All with just a slight tail wind.

Top that one.
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« Reply #131 on: March 09, 2007, 01:46:42 PM »
I'm sure Angus can. He's Da Pissmeister! (But I think he cheats)
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« Reply #132 on: March 09, 2007, 02:26:19 PM »
angus.. you agree with everything I have ever said...  you just don't like the way I say it.

You all should read the book "why the allies won"  by Richard Overy

It explains why german and jap equipment and people were not ready for a world war and how they refused to adapt.  They cared little or nothing for not only their people but for anyone else.   It made them blind as to how to fight a war on this scale.

Another good book is "the American way of war"   a little dry but informative and one of those books that seem so obvious.

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« Reply #133 on: March 09, 2007, 03:05:59 PM »
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"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
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« Reply #134 on: March 09, 2007, 03:12:36 PM »
Lol, Lazs, in this thread I mostly agree with you, so don't mix it with a global warming thread, hehe.
And Sholzie, it's a good feeling to see you reply to my logiscs with repetition of the word "piss". Seems that you have skidded off the road of discussion, civil discussion.
Anyway, the contest is about when to surrender or not. All my Nitrogen affected points were to support the sense of realism, i.e. the situation of England in 1940 vs the situation of Germany in 1944, etc. Sorry that you missed that.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)
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