When Is A Rope A Ho - Erica?

[Softail]

Ok,  thought I was doing pretty well in FT (Orange)  last night.   Since there were a ton of LA's in the air...I decided to fly one for a bit. (I also flew a Spit IX and the Typhoon too,  So no LaLa jokes. ;-) ).  

I'm dropping in on this Yak-9T low on the deck....when I get jumped by a Spit VIII.  This Spit VIII made a 90 degree left turn onto my 6 at 380-400 mph and was all over me.   I tried a quick loop with a hard rudder left kick...that only got me in deeper trouble.  The Spit just rolled inside my loop and nosed down on me.   I began to think "Dumb move on my part."  Now the Spit VII is only 400 out on my 6!.

I am already on the deck, with a Spit VIII in tow that is blasting away at me.    I can't out turn it or out climb it so I use the only thing I got left.   I start mowing the lawn with the prop.   Bob, weave and dodge through the trees trees until the Spit is 1.2K behind me and fading.

I'm coming to a hill side....so I figure I have the distance and speed I will just take it up and over the top.  I figured that the Spit VIII wouldn't  follow from up from 1.5 - 2K out.    Wrong....I go vertical, so does the spit.

So I'm at that top of my climb I ease the nose over at about 90 MPH...look up (aka straight down) and here comes the SpitVIII...still climbing and 1K below me... I figure its Ropin time.   I'm thinking It cant have the E to get to me and it should fall away by the time I finish my half loop.  

I chop throttle and pull over the top....I figure this Spit will nose over soon.  Negative.  It s hanging on the prop and I am coming straight down at 200MPH.   I can see the bottom of its wings (yes...just barely..but those cooling ports are on the bottom of the wing)  then tracers fly by my canopy.   I pull the trigger and blow its wing off.    As I fly by ( a mere 4 feet at best) I hear CLANG  Collision.   I figure I hit debris....the Spit falls out of the sky and the message on 200 reads:  Erica: LAME.  

Apparently, this is a HO in his/her mind.

So I reviewed the film.  Closely, frame by frame.   I have posted it here:


http://www.geocities.com/softail_Rider01/ERICA_Lameness.zip

Take a look.    Am I lame with this manuever or should the Spit maybe not have put itself in that postion?

From what I see:  
1: The spit did not have the E to climb up to me effectively.
2: As I came down the Spit VIII fired first when it had a brief moment of a solution.  So the HO arguement looses a lot of credibility.
3:  I didn't fire from 600 out as was claimed by Spit Driver it was more like 300 out.  (My gun convergence is 275)
2: At 53MPH at the top of its climb...it is "technically" STALLED  what can you do in a Spit VIII Nose to the sky at 53MPH?
3. The Spit driver feels that I shouldn't shoot unless the the "Roped" plane is "stalled"  aka...falling away  or in a flat spin... Nose up means No.

I know I probably should have made my climb more vertical and waited another 15 seconds to do this move.  So My timing could have been better...but to be honest...I though I'd just see the Spit flat turn blow me...not follow me.   So is this a Lame move or a Rope that could have been timed better?

Softail.

[Masherbrum]

It was the only thing to do with the way the fight went.   If it was "lame", then she didn't "make you fight the way she wanted you too".    

After watching the film, she fired first.   She tried following you up, and you held better E.

[hubsonfire]

You were supposed to keep going straight so she could shoot you. Therefore, yes, turning back and killing her was lame.

[Krusty]

Sounds like a rope to me (*shrug*).

[Speed55]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
You were supposed to keep going straight so she could shoot you. Therefore, yes, turning back and killing her was lame.

Alot of people feel that way.

[TinmanX]

So many comments, so little time.

Just another one of those "never my fault" pilots.

Reminds me of the Spit VIII I was trailing, reversed and de-winged to recieve similar comments. Funnily enough, same squad as your kill.

[Kermit de frog]

All I see are a bunch of church ladies in here, but no ho's.  

[Treize69]

Yes, how dare you use your superior speed and climbing ability to put yourself in a tactically better position, and the nerve of converting that postition to your advantage and getting the kill on no-skill whiner.

You should also be castrated for managing to kill her without using a 5-second burst and blowing 3/4 of your ammo, you are obviously using an aimbot.

[Krusty]

Kermit, that rates only a 1 out of 10, sorry, not worth a good groan

[RTR]

All I saw was a good kill.

RTR

[Treize69]

All erica does is whine, shes one of the ones I immediately squelch as soon as I see her on the buffer or hear on Vox.

[Krusty]

Now now, let's not go bashing somebody who may not even have a forum account to reply with. Last time I recall she really liked the La5, and I shot her down a few times in a row in a p47, but she was friendly about, and didn't make any comments.

[Treize69]

She must not have discovered 200 or PMing at that point.

[Krusty]

Ease up a bit, don't want to get locked do we? No at the time we were conversing on 200 also. I ran into her a few times in the past week or so (somebody shooting her down near me), and never saw anything on 200 from her either. I guess everybody has a mood now and then, but doesn't need to have us get this thread locked

[SlapShot]

Now the Spit VII is only 400 out on my 6!.

At this point you should have been dead.

You did the right and only thing available at the time.

All erica does is whine, shes one of the ones I immediately squelch as soon as I see her on the buffer or hear on Vox.

I second that ... I squelch her too ... she tries to talk the smack .. for what reasons I don't understand ... she needs to get a little better before going down that road.

She must not have discovered 200 or PMing at that point.

Oh she knows 200 ... I can vouch for that.