Originally posted by Ghosth
Just because both can get guns on in a turn fight doesn't make it a HO.
Its nose to nose from 3k out or further, no attempt at acm, flying or skill that makes it a HO. Its "playing chicken" with no skill needed that makes it a cheap tactic. Its been that way since beta and its going to stay that way.
Wake up & smell the coffee.
If your in a turn fight its not a HO, its a forward quarter shot in a maneuver fight.
We're watching different films.
I didn't see a turn fight, I saw a plane go straight up when he couldn't run anymore and then dive from d1.2 headon to the spit that was climbing headon to him. both fired together, near collision even. Sure looked like playing chicken to me.
Forward quarter, deflection, you keep using these terms to describe two planes intentionally direct nose to nose firing at each other. I don't think they mean what you think they mean.
Not a rope in my book, not acm worthy to me. Both were looking for nose from go. But, then, I don't know what you're teaching in the TA these days either.