Next Scenario Co's wanted.. not Pearl

[OOZ662]

We're not that far into this yet, 1way.

[Newman]

Husker, a good way to get your feet wet is as a member of the command staff for one side or another. Generally, there is a CO, XO and a few GL's on each side that are in the loop. I did that for years before I took a few XO slots..

1Way, the bombers that will be used are the B-24, Boston, TBM, Ju-88 and Ju-87. Feel free to sign up for any of these groups  

I've tried to design an event that uses the best historical tools/ plane set without substitutions that AH has to offer, as well as give command groups an ability to flow with the battle.

Scoring will be a bit different as well. Survival will add bonus points to the final score. Say the Axis sink a CV.. They get points for that. Say the Allies still have their CV floating at the end of the Scenario.. they get the same points the Axis would have if they sunk it.

Like Rosco said, it may come down to the last minutes of the last frame..

SALUTE!

Newman

[Husker]

Newman,

Yeah I'd thought about a GL or if things got really bad a XO slot. But like I said I'll be in the middle of moving down to NAS Pensacola to begin flight training with the Navy. I don't wanna leave my guys high and dry if I have issues with the net and what not down there. If this event gets moved into anytime after the middle of June, I'm down for flying me some Allied warplanes in a GL or somthing role.

[weazely]

Sounds so tempting but idk seems like a lot of work, mabey I could do a XO possition then again I dont know my schedual in may yet so Im not sure...Ill get back to ya when i know more.  I was sapposed to lead a section in peral but seems thats on hold for qite some time now.

Till then woot operation husky! love the name

[Husky01]

Woops sorry guys I didn't know that weazely was singed on my computer weazelys post is actually from me Husky01 sorry for the confusion there.

[Odee]

Historical perspective here... from the USCG Military History website.

OPERATION HUSKY
by Robert M. Browning, Jr.

With great anticipation CDR Rodger C. Heimer USCG stood on the bridge of the Samuel Chase. The attack transport was part of the approach formation of a large amphibious invasion force. Twenty five miles in the distance he could see flares followed by anti-aircraft fire and explosions that silhouetted the shoreline. At midnight planes showing prearranged recognition lights passed low on the port side. Inside were paratroopers poised to jump behind enemy lines. As the transports and escorts neared their destination Heimer passed along orders readying his ship for an attack on the enemy.

In total darkness, the Chase and nearly 1400 other ships and over 1800 landing craft made final preparations to support or disembark nearly one-half million men. In the initial assault, nearly eight reinforced divisions were to come ashore abreast on a broad front nearly 150 miles wide. It was a daring plan to send so many men ashore in the initial landings. This had never been tried before and it has not been done on this scale since. The operation, however, was not the Normandy invasion but Operation "Husky"--the invasion of Sicily in July 1943.

The idea for the invasion of Sicily was born at the January 1943, Casablanca meeting between President Franklin Roosevelt and English Prime Minister Winston Churchill. The overwhelming success of the North African Campaign allowed the Allies to consider pushing their plans forward to take the war onto the European continent. The initial decision they had to make was where to land. A landing across the English Channel in 1943 could not be accomplished due to a lack of resources. Instead they chose to land in Sicily in order to continue the pressure on the Germans, to secure lines of communication, and to divert German troops from the Russian front. A campaign in Sicily would weaken the Germans and make a cross channel invasion possible for the allies the following year. The Allies viewed the capture of the island as a campaign unto itself and not necessarily a springboard to an assault on Italy....

Not many recall the Coast Guard does overseas duty in times of war too.
and looking forward to flying this one.

[Odee]

Here is this from the USAF HISTOICAL ARCHIVES at Maxwel, AFB

by Maj. Robert A Renner, USAF
Combat Air Support

Like many airpower roles, close air support also came of age in the Italian campaign. Several aspects of CAS taken for granted in modern air forces were developed in the mud and skies of Italy. The Allies experienced problems in air-ground coordination, communications, and identification of friendlies, but also implemented several solutions that survive in today’s battlespace. One solution was a daily meeting between Army and Air Force staffs to review the day’s activities and the Army representatives would nominate the targets they wanted to have attacked the next day.58 This meeting was the forerunner of today’s Joint Coordination Board, at which similar issues are still discussed. Another solution was "prearranged CAS" sorties, missions over the next 24 hours initiated at division level (brigade level for the British). These requests made their way to a joint army-air force group that created an air program (now called an Air Tasking Order, or ATO) conforming to the army’s overall tactical plan.59 In addition, some fighter-bomber squadrons were reserved for "Call Missions" which took into "account changes in the battle situation that favored attacks against targets of opportunity."60 Two further CAS developments forged in Italy were the Rover system and ‘Horsefly.’

The Rover system significantly improved CAS effectiveness and army-air force cooperation. Named Rover David and Rover Paddy (after 2 fighter pilots and originators of the idea) for the RAF and Rover Joe (as in G.I. Joe) for the USAAF,61 it was the pioneer of today’s FACs (Forward Air Controllers). The Rover system paired air controllers and army liaison officers to ‘rove’ the battlefield calling fighter-bombers to attack targets of opportunity.62 To respond to these CAS requests, fighters were ‘Cabranked,’ whereby flights of aircraft arrived at 30-minute intervals. Prior to take-off, the fighter-bomber pilots planned for alternate targets they would attack if they received no call after 20 minutes on-station. If, however, the Rover had a suitable target, he would talk the flight onto the target through grid coordinates, terrain description, and artillery-fired colored smoke.63 The only noticeable change in today’s CAS missions in Afghanistan is the use of technology (specifically, Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) and laser-designation) to mark targets. Operational Analysis of fighter-bomber support for British V Corps operations in Italy between October and December 1944 showed 100 fighter-bomber attacks (equal to about 500 sorties) equated to 60-90 fewer troops killed and 200-300 fewer wounded by German artillery shellfire. The cost to the RAF was 2.6 pilots killed or missing, 0.3 pilots injured, and 4.5 aircraft lost.64 Sufficient CAS, then, can help win battles and save friendly soldiers’ lives. This level of CAS support, however, is only possible with air superiority, as previously discussed.

Another innovation in Italy that improved Allied CAS effectiveness was ‘Horsefly,’ a precursor of today’s Airborne FACs. An artillery spotter pilot flying a Piper L-5 ‘Grasshopper’ suggested the concept for ‘Horsefly’ when he realized an L-5 could also "direct fighter-bombers onto a target when artillery was unavailable to mark the target with smoke shells."65....

still seraching for Axis/Allies air fource compositions in Husky.  Suspect the Allies had the P-38-H, P-47C (maybe D too) P-51-B, Spit ix, (was the xiv out then?), a slew of A-26, B-26, Lancs, etc for bombers.

I'm not up enough on the Axis a/c to hazzard a gues on their make up at this time.

again

[1Way>]

Originally posted by Newman
Husker, a good way to get your feet wet is as a member of the command staff for one side or another. Generally, there is a CO, XO and a few GL's on each side that are in the loop. I did that for years before I took a few XO slots..

1Way, the bombers that will be used are the B-24, Boston, TBM, Ju-88 and Ju-87. Feel free to sign up for any of these groups  

I've tried to design an event that uses the best historical tools/ plane set without substitutions that AH has to offer, as well as give command groups an ability to flow with the battle.

Scoring will be a bit different as well. Survival will add bonus points to the final score. Say the Axis sink a CV.. They get points for that. Say the Allies still have their CV floating at the end of the Scenario.. they get the same points the Axis would have if they sunk it.

Like Rosco said, it may come down to the last minutes of the last frame..

SALUTE!

Newman

Do you have a link for me to sign up??? I would like to drive a 24

[Roscoroo]

Sign up starts after we get the CO/XO's in place at that time the Rules come out and everything gets set ... Scenario's are ussually 3-4  3 hour frames .

[Odee]

Originally posted by Roscoroo
Sign up starts after we get the CO/XO's in place at that time the Rules come out and everything gets set ... Scenario's are ussually 3-4  3 hour frames .

Clarification please... Is that, 3 to 4 frames of up to 3 hour duration, or the total frame time allowed is 3 hours spread over up to 4 games/weeks?

[Krusty]

3 to 4 frames total. Norm is 4 (1 month). Each frame can last 2.5 to 3 hours.

[Roscoroo]

3 to 4 frames of up to 3 hour duration.

ussually covers a months time  or 9-12 hours of your life sucked into a scenario

[toadkill]

Woot scenario.

sry for posting a worthless post

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Roscoroo
3 to 4 frames of up to 3 hour duration.

ussually covers a months time  or 9-12 hours of your life sucked into a scenario

Only if you just show up and fly

COing for it might take up 30+ hours

EDIT: Not that I'm trying to scare folks off! I just mean you can really get into it!

[detch01]

3 or 4 frames. Each frame lasting 3 hrs. At least that's how it works in my time zone



Cheers,
asw