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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2007, 10:11:54 PM »
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But in one thing I can agree: There are indeed some people who would lke to see a war against Iran.



Yes there are indeed. Many of them seem to be Iranians.

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« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2007, 03:08:27 AM »
Lets liberate Iran.

And Hornet33, there are weapons out now that are really quite amazing.  I personally like the Russian assault rifle that can fire two rounds out of the barrel before the recoil gets to the shooter.  

Or for pure tissue damage, how about replacing the aging m16 with some of the flechette firing rifles designed in the 1990s.  Those things were brutal.

I even think the M-14 is still a better rifle than the M-16a2.  Todays soldier is bigger than his 1950s counterpart (my grandfather wore a size 7 boot in the army during WW2, I wear a size 13).  Thusly, from a physical standpoint alone, our soldiers would be more capable to fire a fully automatic 7.62mm rifle.

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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2007, 03:22:41 AM »
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Thusly, from a physical standpoint alone, our soldiers would be more capable to fire a fully automatic 7.62mm rifle.


We have the 7.62mm as standard caliber and that should not be a problem for you guys either.

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« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2007, 05:45:41 AM »
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And Hornet33, there are weapons out now that are really quite amazing.  I personally like the Russian assault rifle that can fire two rounds out of the barrel before the recoil gets to the shooter.  
 


Oh yeah!  The AN - 94 "Abakan".  Amazing weapon; departs a bit from the 'simple is better' rule used for decades by the Soviets, but they really came out with a nifty battle rifle for their version of the OICW project.

I really liked the Austrian's Flechette rifle:





http://www.steyr-aug.com/acr2002.htm

I want one!!
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« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2007, 07:22:37 AM »
those soldiers were captured in contested waters, some say it belongs to Iran and others say Iraq...hence Iran thinking they had rights to size the ship and its occupents...

Iran gettin even for the embargo set on them...tit for tat some might say

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« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2007, 09:05:55 AM »
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lol

waa waaa... the iranianians are comming :eek: :eek:  :D


Thats all you could muster?

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« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2007, 10:13:55 AM »
The U.K will do nothing, the west is weak.

I am scheduling a circumcision next week and have started studying the Koran.

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« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2007, 10:30:12 AM »
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Thats all you could muster?


lol yup :)

not much more to say really

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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2007, 12:14:12 PM »
If there is a war in Iran there will most likely need to be a draft considering how our military is overextended in Afghanistan and our illegitimate war in Iraq.  I'm under 25 and am at risk to being drafted.  Not in my name I say.  If Bush and Co want to go to Iran I say all those who voted for him should go fight rather than our nations youth.  Unless you think we're actually making the world safer by occupying Iraq and removing their "weapons of destruction." lol

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« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2007, 12:17:26 PM »
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lol yup :)

not much more to say really



Word

opps wrong thread.

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« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2007, 12:22:23 PM »
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If there is a war in Iran there will most likely need to be a draft considering how our military is overextended in Afghanistan and our illegitimate war in Iraq.  I'm under 25 and am at risk to being drafted.  Not in my name I say.  If Bush and Co want to go to Iran I say all those who voted for him should go fight rather than our nations youth.  Unless you think we're actually making the world safer by occupying Iraq and removing their "weapons of destruction." lol


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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2007, 12:29:40 PM »
So by disagreeing I must leave the country I was born in and love?  That's bullcrap.  I would gladly fight for my country just not in an illegitimate war.  How did Iraq pose a threat at all to the United States?  If anything our war in Iraq has potentially started Iran's pursuit of the bomb.  If a foreign power was rolling tanks through my town I'd probably be among the first to pick up a weapon and fight but I will not fight in America's vietnam for the 21st century.

If you support this war so much I hope you've already fought a tour over in Iraq as it's easy to say you support something and a totally different matter to put your life on the line to support it.  I'm not convinced Iraq and Iran pose such a serious threat that any more Americans should put their lives on the line.  If anything we've created more of a threat by invading Iraq than was there before we invaded.

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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2007, 12:48:06 PM »
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So by disagreeing I must leave the country I was born in and love?  That's bullcrap.  I would gladly fight for my country just not in an illegitimate war.  How did Iraq pose a threat at all to the United States?  If anything our war in Iraq has potentially started Iran's pursuit of the bomb.  If a foreign power was rolling tanks through my town I'd probably be among the first to pick up a weapon and fight but I will not fight in America's vietnam for the 21st century.

If you support this war so much I hope you've already fought a tour over in Iraq as it's easy to say you support something and a totally different matter to put your life on the line to support it.  I'm not convinced Iraq and Iran pose such a serious threat that any more Americans should put their lives on the line.  If anything we've created more of a threat by invading Iraq than was there before we invaded.


I signed the SAME Selective Service card that you have.   You cannot "choose" which war is "illegitimate" if drafted.   You signed it, bottom line.   If you are still "questioning the war" than yeah, move elsewhere.  

I never "said I support a war".   If I was ever drafted (past or present), I'd do my part.  Those are two totally different things.
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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2007, 12:52:32 PM »
Just because I signed a selective service card doesn't mean jack, I was forced to sign that card otherwise there would be serious penalties.  I find it kind of funny that we can live in a democracy yet still be forced to pick up a weapon and fight for whatever wars our elected officials deem worthy to fight.  In vietnam the true patriots weren't those who just went along with the draft but those burned their cards.

I have the courage to stand up for what I believe is wrong.  I don't care if I get thrown in jail for it.

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« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2007, 01:03:10 PM »


You were more likely to be murdered in New Orleass last year than you were in all of Iraq.  I don't see people like Soviet willing to go to jail in protest of the high murder rate in LA.  Where is your outrage about Geary Indianna in 2005?  Where are the protests?  Where is the incessant media coverage?

Oh that's right, it wouldn't fit into their "political adgenda".  (Sigh)

It's an HONOR to serve your country.  No, you don't get to pick which war to serve in.  Quit buying into all the B.S. hype you read about the Iraq war.

You are less likely to get murdered in Baghdad than in many cities in the U.S.
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