So umm whats that organisation for prisoners rights?

[Vulcan]

Ohh yeah, amnesty international.

http://www.amnesty.org/actnow/

Notice anything missing?

[DiabloTX]

Britons need not apply.

[namvet]

I think that organization is intended to help victims of state oppression, not the oppressors themselves.

[Rino]

Originally posted by namvet
I think that organization is intended to help victims of state oppression, not the oppressors themselves.

     What is the record for stupid statements?

[Joachim]

n00k them.

I hate the Guantanamo bay crying.

Could you imagine trying German POWs individually in civilian US courts during WWII?

Morons.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Joachim
Could you imagine trying German POWs individually in civilian US courts during WWII?
 

Let's not forget that the allied armies also had war criminals, who by the same stantards should been prosecuted with many of the convicted germans. No allied soldier was prosecuted for war crimes.

It's a bad comparison to compare Gitmo to WWII. Although it's still true that the allies are hardly at all prosecuted for war crimes today - Only some inviduals have been sentenced, but none of their commanders and in most cases every other participant in a crime has walked free.

[Bluedog]

Nothing like having a differant set of rules for yourselves than you have for everyone else.

If it were Americans being illegaly imprisoned and tortured in foreign prison camps you would all no doubt be up on your high horse calling for a nuclear strike.

If you arent going to play by the rules, what do you think gives you the right to enforce them, especially outside of the US of A?


I'm talking about David Hicks here, a citizen of a long term, current and active military ally , who was not captured as an armed enemy combatant but who surrendered when the Govt he was employed by became the enemy of his own nation and of the US.

It is a very differant story for POWs, armed enemy combatants captured in combat, but Hicks isnt one of those.

[Elfie]

Doesn't appear that David Hicks is exactly innocent. It appears that he was captured by the Northern Alliance forces in Afghanistan and turned over to the US authorities. He is a Muslim that attended an Al-Qaeada training camp.

He has fought in Kosovo, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Linkage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hicks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3044386.stm

[-tronski-]

David Hick's detention, eventual charge(s), and "trial" were a joke...so much so it isn't his supposed guilt (not that was was ever in question by the govt) thats at issue, but the way he was readily abandoned to his fate by our govt. and any form of a unbiased, fair trial was made unavailable to him. A tenent which democracy is supposedly based on - even to our most corrupt..

Hicks was captured deserting the battlefield by bus, by the northern alliance after spending the "war" guarding a tank which never fired a shot...and at most he was a Taleban foot soldier (who also never fired a single shot) - which is a good reason to spend 4-5 years in solitary confinement without formal charge but if you were to believe the American and Australian govts. David Hicks was the worse of the worse......so bad he got a plea bargain and will serve 9 months in an austalian gaol while "gagged" from the media for a year (conviently long enough for the next fedeal elections)...but I supposed better than trying to fight a ad-hoc sham military "trial" (thank god for Major Michael Mori)

if he was in the Taleban foriegn ministry he could have gotten out years ago and gone to Yale, but guarding a tank is aparently far more dangerous to civilisation as we know it...

 Tronsky

[storch]

perhaps mr hicks should have been summarily executed along with all those others living in relative comfort at the expense of the American taxpayers in guantanamo.  those guys are being coddled in a serene tropical setting and receiving far better treatment than our service personnnel would were the circumstances reversed.  

I'm glad they were not executed but I don't think they should ever be released.  I also think they should be relocated to a similar camp in a far less idyllic setting, death valley come immediately to mind.

[Gunthr]

if he was in the Taleban foriegn ministry he could have gotten out years ago and gone to Yale, but guarding a tank is aparently far more dangerous to civilisation as we know it...

Tronsky

His name isn't David Hicks.  He changed it to Abu Muslim al-Austraili, aka Muhammed Dawood.   He got more than a fair shake from the USA, considering he should have gotten a bullet in the head right where he was captured.   You might want to keep an eye on him when he gets home ....

[Viking]

Ah, so the American response to surrendering enemies should now be “a bullet in the head”? Must be windy up on that moral high ground there.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Rino
What is the record for stupid statements?

Posts: 66

[Gunthr]

it has nothing whatsoever to do with "moral high ground".  

Muhammed Dawood was trained to kill Americans.  He was trained in the use of RPGs.  He was trained to kidnap.  To use explosives, to use cammoflage and all the other ways to kill.  He was issued weapons and ammunition, which he accepted, to kill Americans.  He was on a battlefield.   He was an Al Qaeda fighter.   i don't know the circumstances of his capture, but when he was fighting us, he should have gotten a bullet in the head, and I wish he had - to make the world a safer place.

[namvet]

Originally posted by Viking
Ah, so the American response to surrendering enemies should now be “a bullet in the head”? Must be windy up on that moral high ground there.

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