Author Topic: So umm whats that organisation for prisoners rights? (Read 1065 times)

Viking · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:06:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
it has nothing whatsoever to do with "moral high ground".

Muhammed Dawood was trained to kill Americans. He was trained in the use of RPGs. He was trained to kidnap. To use explosives, to use cammoflage and all the other ways to kill. He was issued weapons and ammunition, which he accepted, to kill Americans. He was on a battlefield. He was an Al Qaeda fighter. i don't know the circumstances of his capture, but when he was fighting us, he should have gotten a bullet in the head, and I wish he had - to make the world a safer place.

So he was trained to be a soldier. And in your own words "he was on the battlefield". Seems to me he was an enemy worthy of respect.

Gunthr · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:19:29 AM »

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So he was trained to be a soldier. And in your own words "he was on the battlefield". Seems to me he was an enemy worthy of respect. - Viking

not as far as I'm concerned. and don't play wordgames. He is a terrorist who trained with Al Qaeda after 911 occurred which should tell you EXACTLY what kind of person he is.

Yes, I feel strongly about it. I sincerely don't want to offend any Aussies. I admire Austrailians. However, Muhammed Dawood, as stated by someone above, has forsaken his birth nation to become a terrorist. He may have changed his mind when he discovered there were consequences, but i have no respect for those who support the deliberate targetting and killing of innocents.

x0847Marine · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:28:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
Nothing like having a differant set of rules for yourselves than you have for everyone else.

Under Bushs new definition, most of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein are no longer "torture".. it was "torture" before we went to war tho...

john9001 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:45:57 AM »

i thought this thread was about the british sailors and lack of interest by amnesty international?

nice way to spin it into another hate america rant.

storch · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:48:27 AM »

I don't think our friends hate us. they come off as envious and petty, wishing they could be us sadly knowing they can never be.

Joachim · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2007, 10:39:24 AM »

Solution to our legal woes is simply to kill them on the battlefield and spare ourselves the effort of having to transport, house, and feed them for an indefinite period of time while the ACLU pays their legal fees.

Terrorists should be given the same consideration they give to the civilians they target with their homicide attack victims; none, no quarter for these people.

Joachim · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2007, 10:40:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Let's not forget that the allied armies also had war criminals, who by the same stantards should been prosecuted with many of the convicted germans. No allied soldier was prosecuted for war crimes.

I don't see what war crimes has to do with POWs having access to civilian courts.

Viking · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2007, 10:44:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
not as far as I'm concerned. and don't play wordgames. He is a terrorist who trained with Al Qaeda after 911 occurred which should tell you EXACTLY what kind of person he is.

Yes, I feel strongly about it. I sincerely don't want to offend any Aussies. I admire Austrailians. However, Muhammed Dawood, as stated by someone above, has forsaken his birth nation to become a terrorist. He may have changed his mind when he discovered there were consequences, but i have no respect for those who support the deliberate targetting and killing of innocents.

He forsook his birth nation to fight for something he believed was right. I can respect that. Unless he himself partook in the killing of innocents I cannot fault him, just as I cannot fault every US soldier for the crimes committed by some.

Viking · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2007, 10:46:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Joachim
I don't see what war crimes has to do with POWs having access to civilian courts.

Are they POW's or civilian criminals? POW's are protected by the GC. Civilians are protected by US law. Make up you your mind.

storch · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2007, 11:14:28 AM »

you can't just summarily execute them. the line is blurred as to whether they are trerrorists or combatants too. the bottom line is that no matter which path the U.S. takes it will draw heat and ridicule from the envious others.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:05:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
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It's Weasel. He's baaaaaack...

straffo · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:35:25 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
you can't just summarily execute them. the line is blurred as to whether they are trerrorists or combatants too. the bottom line is that no matter which path the U.S. takes it will draw heat and ridicule from the envious others.

May I respectfully remind you, you are supposed to be the good guys.

storch · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:40:10 PM »

while not entirely perfect but we are the good guys. there is no people kinder or geniunely helpful. we have proven this time and again. we are the paradigm for what humanity should be. Americans, the people with heart.

Viking · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:43:42 PM »

You are also very modest.

storch · « **Reply #29 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:49:55 PM »

Oh lord, it's hard to be humble when we're perfect in every way. when we wake up in the morning we're better looking each day. to know us is to love us, we must be one heck of a land, oh lord it's hard to be humble we're doing the best that we can.