Author Topic: Conflict Seen in Game Objective  (Read 2455 times)

Offline Masherbrum

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22408
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2007, 09:55:23 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
I have absolutely no problem with players wanting to be "specialists" in either aerial combat, or ....

HUBSONFIRE, you are one of those people that READ but don't comprehend well.  Always study the topic sentence before making such a blanket statement.  

You just received a "D" on the Reading Comprehension portion of today's assignment.


Trying to read your butchered "English" is taxing enough.   You answered your own question.   If you have a tough time "reading someone's excessive typo's, and grammar", "comprehension" becomes last on the list of priorities.
-=Most Wanted=-

FSO Squad 412th FNVG
http://worldfamousfridaynighters.com/
Co-Founder of DFC

Offline hubsonfire

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8658
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2007, 11:36:07 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
I have absolutely no problem with players wanting to be "specialists" in either aerial combat, or ....


You have no problem with them, you just want another arena where they can't **** up your toolshedding. My reading comprehension is just fine.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 11:38:57 PM by hubsonfire »
mook
++Blue Knights++

Proper punctuation and capitalization go a long way towards people paying attention to your posts.  -Stoney
I was wondering why I get ignored so often.  -Hitech

Offline Its_a_game

  • Parolee
  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2007, 08:19:09 AM »
I'm another one who wants an end-goal of which combat (in all its mechanized forms) is a part of. To whirl around in a furball just to do it is monotinous and a short-lived form of entertainment for me. No offense to those that enjoy different styles of play.thndregg  

As opposed to high-school-level responses, here is the XO of the largest squad on the game.  From a weighted point-of-view, I would think his opinion certainly supercedes the peanut gallery.

What say you now?
« Last Edit: April 22, 2007, 08:21:12 AM by Its_a_game »

Offline Its_a_game

  • Parolee
  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2007, 08:25:38 AM »
Here's from "ghi", one of the most dedicated players on the game:

QUOTE]Originally posted by ghi
I did always like the "win war goal of the game",team play ,more organized made it more realistic,  ; I always thought this is a massive multi ww2 flight and fight for something(base,war,country) sim, not just a nonsense dogfight until puke without a final goal"first person shoter'
 
[/QUOTE]


Thank you both,  ghi and thndregg for posting.

Offline Bronk

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9044
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2007, 08:37:50 AM »
Those opinions carry no more weight than anyone's.

The object of a game is to have fun. Don't care how you do it.


Bronk
See Rule #4

Offline Its_a_game

  • Parolee
  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2007, 09:08:49 AM »
Yes Bronk, which brings me back to first post.

Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
I have been seeing a lot of complaining about players trying to take bases.  Complainers say "its a waste of time", "its going to reset anyway", "you should only dogfight."   I am a new player and I thought DA was for that?

Why did the HTC programmers create a feature to take bases?  Why did they create Bombers? or GV's?  Why not create a screnario to just a take off, dogfight, then land?

I fear the only vocal players on the forum will say, game is meant for dogfighting only. However, I see quite a number of players organizing to take bases.  

High Tech Creations may have wasted too much programming time on bombers, GV's, town etc..

Offline Vadjan-Sama

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 233
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2007, 09:15:57 AM »
Well, thats fun 4 U, but with the actual system all kind of people can have fun... furballing, taking fields, in Gv's, buffs... etc... etc... etc....

U want something more organized, go to WWIIo
"I wish people would use the wish list forum to post their brilliant ideas, and be smart enough to not post all their stupid ones.

But I am under no disillusions of my wish ever being fulfilled."

HiTech

Offline Shifty

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9377
      • 307th FS
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2007, 09:16:51 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
[ I would think his opinion certainly supercedes the peanut gallery.

What say you now?


Based on what? How is does his opinon carry more weight than anyone else's? You think because he's the XO of the biggest squad in AH, that makes him and his opinon more important than the other guys? Dude just play the game the way you wish, and then get a life.





:rofl

JG-11"Black Hearts"...nur die Stolzen, nur die Starken

"Haji may have blown my legs off but I'm still a stud"~ SPC Thomas Vandeventer Delta1/5 1st CAV

Offline Murdr

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5608
      • http://479th.jasminemaire.com
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2007, 09:26:32 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
Maybe in the future, there will be separate arena's just for the aerial combat people with a ranking system based on that arena's success or failure.
Hmm, is this the adjenda?  Don't count on it.  HT already had experience with fighter only setups in a past life.  Player turnover is too high.

"Furballing" is not strictly airspawn, kill, be killed, rinse and repeat.  It's the guy who has an hour or so of free time to fly, and would like to actually be able to simulate air combat with another human being during that time.  That excludes being swarmed by a horde, or fighting 10 countrymen for the only poor sap in the area.  If there is a spot on the map at a given time that has the chance of allowing a fair fight, the furballer is happy.  AH is intended to foster this happening the way I understand HTC.  If you don't like that, you're in the wrong place.


Heh, ya already got quotes from the developers, but we are going to push forward anyways.

I dont care what niche of the game everyone else likes.  If I can get on and go to the biggest bottemless pit of a furball on the map when I want to, I am happy.  If I can get on and be another armchair general pointing out what need done for the war effort when I want, I am happy.

I do care when an excessive amount of w!n th3 w4r yahoo's get together and outright ruin chances for any sembelence of gameplay for others in an arena.  Or better yet, when it's 2-3 radar blobs roving around the map avoiding each other.  Appearently HTC cares also.  Because when no amount of prodding and discussion from the community will convince said groups that other peoples gameplay experience  should be respected too, HTC steps in and adjusts things.  

This "conflict" between "furballers", strat porkers, and "land grabbers" pre-dates AH.  What? Did you just now notice it?

Offline Sketch

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1351
      • http://www.arabian-knights.org
Re: Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2007, 10:00:13 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
I have been seeing a lot of complaining about players trying to take bases.  Complainers say "its a waste of time", "its going to reset anyway", "you should only dogfight."   I am a new player and I thought DA was for that?

Why did the HTC programmers create a feature to take bases?  Why did they create Bombers? or GV's?  Why not create a screnario to just a take off, dogfight, then land?

I fear the only vocal players on the forum will say, game is meant for dogfighting only. However, I see quite a number of players organizing to take bases.  

High Tech Creations may have wasted too much programming time on bombers, GV's, town etc..


Why does it matter why they (HTC) did it?  It is there game and that is how it started.  It has evolved since the days of Warbirds and AH1 and it will keep evolving as long as the game is around.  Why not send Ubisoft or EA Games some fan mail and ask them why they mad thier games the way they did?

Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
From the whine about the AKs switching sides (more recently, not all the whining from AH1)
I'm confused. Have you been playing for years, or are you new?


Thanks for posting this Hubs....  I love seeing the whines come about a squad that has 4 on one side and 4 on the other and we fight each other...  Heaven for bid we have some fun and shoot at each other.  If you would have been there Its_a_game, you would have noticed that we were between two close bases with some decent alt and some nice canyons and we were just flying around having fun.  Not spying or ganging up on the 3rd country.... Having fun.....  If you have a problem with the AK's say so.  But if you can buck up and not hide under a shade name then maybe you will gain some respect.

Once again Hubs, thanks for posting that.... I knew that guys name look familiar.  It has "play my way or I'll go home" written all over it.  :aok

Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Those opinions carry no more weight than anyone's.
The object of a game is to have fun. Don't care how you do it.
Bronk


Bronk posted this and you agree with him.... Hence what the AK's have said.... we were having fun.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2007, 10:10:12 AM by Sketch »
~Sketch~//~Arabian Knights~
Sketch's Gunsight Collection 2008
Sketchworks Arabian Knights Soundpack
~Oderint Dum Metuant~

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17616
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2007, 10:07:18 AM »
Quote

I'm another one who wants an end-goal of which combat (in all its mechanized forms) is a part of. To whirl around in a furball just to do it is monotinous and a short-lived form of entertainment for me. No offense to those that enjoy different styles of play.thndregg  



Originally posted by ghi
I did always like the "win war goal of the game",team play ,more organized made it more realistic, ; I always thought this is a massive multi ww2 flight and fight for something(base,war,country) sim, not just a nonsense dogfight until puke without a final goal"first person shoter'



Your kidding right? While both of these players are known, and respected.... in some circles :aok    Their opinions carry no more weight than anyone else in the game. If you believe they do, then I think you may have a touch of "hero worship" and you should see a psychiatrist !

Lighten up Frances ! Its just a game !! If your spending all of your time "worrying" about what other people think and do then you certainly will NOT have any fun. The only "Conflict seen in Game Objectives" I see are the ones YOU are making up ! Looks to me like "most" of the people are playing and having fun.

Offline thndregg

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4017
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2007, 10:31:43 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
Your kidding right? While both of these players are known, and respected.... in some circles :aok    Their opinions carry no more weight than anyone else in the game.


Agreed, and a VERY good point. I just play to have fun overall, and my opinion is simply a thought of what makes this game fun for me. That's all. I never mean to supercede anyone else's ideas of how they define fun, and I hope others can percieve of my opinion that way. all.
Former C.O. 91st Bombardment Group (Heavy)
"The Ragged Irregulars"

Offline Anyone

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 307
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2007, 11:53:33 AM »
the game trys to cater for everyone....



....the only issue with that is it causes conflits between the different styles sometimes. Normally all sides of the game can get allong together fine...

sometimes its furballers moaning about war winners, GV's moaning about planes. Planes moaning about Ships, Ships moaning about planes.... its just the way it is. lol

Offline Rino

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8495
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2007, 02:05:35 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
I'm another one who wants an end-goal of which combat (in all its mechanized forms) is a part of. To whirl around in a furball just to do it is monotinous and a short-lived form of entertainment for me. No offense to those that enjoy different styles of play.thndregg  

As opposed to high-school-level responses, here is the XO of the largest squad on the game.  From a weighted point-of-view, I would think his opinion certainly supercedes the peanut gallery.

What say you now?


     Speaking of high school level responses...look in the mirror lately?
80th FS Headhunters
PHAN
Proud veteran of the Cola Wars

Offline thndregg

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4017
Conflict Seen in Game Objective
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2007, 05:32:14 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Its_a_game
As opposed to high-school-level responses, here is the XO of the largest squad on the game.  From a weighted point-of-view, I would think his opinion certainly supercedes the peanut gallery.

What say you now?


Sitting here eating a late lunch, I just caught this remark. Excuse me if I'm a bit slow.:rolleyes:

I know I'm repeating myself, but no matter of what rank I am in my squad, my opinion is NOT weighted. What I said is just what I think about what I enjoy about the game. I said the same thing three years ago when I started playing.
Former C.O. 91st Bombardment Group (Heavy)
"The Ragged Irregulars"