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Offline RightF00T

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Host Connection Lost/ No Lost UDP
« on: April 23, 2007, 09:09:31 PM »
Well, I recently resubcribed after a decently long hiatus and I come back to find I get booted like clockwork!  I'll be in a rope with the planes still flying fine(no warping, no frozen planes) and I'll instantly get the Host Connection Lost popup.  I don't lose UDP or anything just instant boot.  I'd like to get some insight please.

2.8Ghz Celeron
512MB Ram
ATI 9200SE Vid Card


The only thing I can foresee is the desktop I'm playing on is crossovered at 100Mbps to a laptop that has a wireless connect at 11Mbps.  The wireless transmitter is about 20 ft away and I cant really move closer.  Wireless card for desktop?  I would think I would get lost UDP before this happens

Ping:

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 4/23/2007 10:03:22 PM to 4/23/2007 10:05:07 PM

 1   *       *       *       *       *       *       *      N/A      [-]
 2    4 ms    3 ms    4 ms    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    3 ms  [10.2.15.1]
 3    5 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms  [192.168.100.1]
 4   20 ms   10 ms   10 ms   10 ms    9 ms   10 ms   10 ms   11 ms  [68.216.218.69]
 5   12 ms   11 ms   10 ms   10 ms   11 ms   10 ms   10 ms   10 ms  [68.216.218.85]
 6   25 ms   24 ms   26 ms   23 ms   24 ms   24 ms   24 ms   23 ms  ber00rmo-ge-0-2-2.bellsouth.net [205.152.134.81]
 7   42 ms   24 ms   60 ms   24 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms  ixc01int-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.106]
 8   25 ms  157 ms   24 ms   25 ms   25 ms   23 ms   26 ms   23 ms  ixc00int-ge-1-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.26.64]
 9   17 ms   16 ms   16 ms   17 ms   16 ms   16 ms   17 ms   29 ms  axr01clt-so-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.66]
10   25 ms   17 ms   17 ms   17 ms   17 ms   19 ms   16 ms   16 ms  axr00clt-so-0-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.238.10]
11   24 ms  166 ms   24 ms   23 ms   36 ms   24 ms   99 ms   23 ms  ixc01gsp-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.65]
12   23 ms   24 ms   25 ms   23 ms   47 ms   24 ms  106 ms   24 ms  ixc00gsp-ge-0-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.123.64]
13   25 ms   24 ms   24 ms   *       *       24 ms   24 ms  N/A     axr00asm-so-2-3-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.86]
14   41 ms   28 ms   23 ms   30 ms   34 ms   23 ms   73 ms   23 ms  pxr00asm-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.236.2]
15   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms   23 ms   25 ms   26 ms  so-1-0-0.gar1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [67.72.8.5]
16   29 ms  N/A     N/A     N/A      25 ms  N/A     N/A      23 ms  ae-12-51.car2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.3]
17   89 ms   41 ms   24 ms  213 ms   26 ms   24 ms   27 ms   24 ms  [192.205.34.57]
18   63 ms   55 ms   53 ms   51 ms   52 ms   53 ms   53 ms   54 ms  [12.122.96.70]
19   53 ms   53 ms   54 ms   52 ms   54 ms   54 ms   55 ms   52 ms  tbr1-cl13.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.2.89]
20   54 ms   52 ms   52 ms   52 ms   51 ms   53 ms   50 ms   51 ms  br2-a340s8.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.209]
21   51 ms   60 ms   55 ms   53 ms   51 ms   53 ms   53 ms   51 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
22   52 ms   52 ms   53 ms   53 ms  182 ms   52 ms   52 ms   54 ms  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.250]
23   53 ms   52 ms   52 ms   50 ms   54 ms   52 ms   52 ms   51 ms  [206.16.60.39]

Ping statistics for 206.16.60.39
Packets: Sent = 8, Received = 8, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 50ms, Maximum = 54ms, Average = 52ms

Offline RightF00T

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Just Booted
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 09:13:43 PM »
Just booted yet again, after climbing to 21k and having the upperhand on cons over a CV.  Instant boot, keep in mind and I had Netstat pulled up in corner and no sign of connection issues

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 4/23/2007 10:12:29 PM

 1  N/A      []
 2    3 ms  [10.2.15.1]
 3    4 ms  [192.168.101.1]
 4   12 ms  [68.216.218.65]
 5   12 ms  [68.216.218.37]
 6   25 ms  ber00rmo-ge-0-2-2.bellsouth.net [205.152.134.81]
 7   24 ms  ixc01int-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.106]
 8   24 ms  ixc00int-ge-1-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.26.64]
 9   18 ms  axr01clt-so-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.66]
10  N/A      []
11   24 ms  ixc01gsp-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.65]
12   23 ms  ixc00gsp-ge-0-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.123.64]
13  N/A      []
14   23 ms  pxr00asm-so-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.236.2]
15   28 ms  so-1-0-0.gar1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [67.72.8.5]
16   76 ms  ae-22-56.car2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.163]
17   45 ms  [192.205.34.61]
18   92 ms  [12.122.96.70]
19   54 ms  tbr1-cl13.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.2.89]
20   50 ms  br2-a340s8.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.209]
21   53 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
22   53 ms  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-4.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.42]
23   57 ms  [206.16.60.39]

Ping statistics for 206.16.60.39
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 57ms, Maximum = 57ms, Average = 57ms

Offline RightF00T

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1 minute later
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 09:14:24 PM »
1 minute later

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 4/23/2007 10:12:29 PM to 4/23/2007 10:14:14 PM

 1   *       *       *       *       *       *       *      N/A      [-]
 2    3 ms    3 ms    6 ms    3 ms    4 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms  [10.2.15.1]
 3    4 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    8 ms    3 ms    3 ms    4 ms  [192.168.101.1]
 4   12 ms   10 ms   10 ms   13 ms   11 ms   15 ms   12 ms   11 ms  [68.216.218.65]
 5   12 ms   11 ms   10 ms   16 ms   10 ms   13 ms   10 ms   10 ms  [68.216.218.37]
 6   25 ms   24 ms  108 ms   28 ms   24 ms   24 ms   26 ms   25 ms  ber00rmo-ge-0-2-2.bellsouth.net [205.152.134.81]
 7   24 ms   26 ms   24 ms  242 ms   26 ms   24 ms   24 ms   29 ms  ixc01int-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.106]
 8   24 ms   54 ms   25 ms   36 ms   24 ms   40 ms   27 ms   97 ms  ixc00int-ge-1-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.26.64]
 9   18 ms   16 ms   17 ms   18 ms   18 ms   24 ms   29 ms   16 ms  axr01clt-so-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.66]
10   *       23 ms   19 ms   23 ms   27 ms   17 ms   16 ms   17 ms  axr00clt-so-0-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.238.10]
11   24 ms   25 ms   74 ms  144 ms   27 ms   24 ms   24 ms  124 ms  ixc01gsp-pos-6-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.65]
12   23 ms   25 ms   28 ms   26 ms   23 ms   25 ms   33 ms   38 ms  ixc00gsp-ge-0-0-0.bellsouth.net [205.152.123.64]
13   *       24 ms   26 ms   24 ms   24 ms   23 ms   *       67 ms  axr00asm-so-2-3-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.239.86]
14   23 ms   23 ms   31 ms   23 ms   66 ms   31 ms   23 ms   38 ms  pxr00asm-so-2-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.236.2]
15   28 ms   25 ms   26 ms   34 ms   32 ms   27 ms   27 ms   26 ms  so-1-0-0.gar1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [67.72.8.5]
16  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      28 ms  N/A     N/A      31 ms  ae-12-55.car2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.131]
17   45 ms   24 ms   26 ms   24 ms   25 ms  224 ms   27 ms   26 ms  [192.205.34.61]
18   92 ms   58 ms   53 ms   52 ms   56 ms   53 ms   55 ms   89 ms  [12.122.96.70]
19   54 ms  100 ms   58 ms   53 ms   76 ms   52 ms   53 ms   55 ms  tbr1-cl13.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.2.89]
20   50 ms   54 ms   52 ms   67 ms   55 ms   55 ms   58 ms   54 ms  br2-a340s8.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.209]
21   53 ms   51 ms   53 ms   54 ms   55 ms   52 ms   54 ms   92 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
22   53 ms   56 ms   57 ms  102 ms   54 ms   57 ms   54 ms   56 ms  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-4.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.42]
23   57 ms   51 ms   59 ms   54 ms   55 ms   54 ms   53 ms   56 ms  [206.16.60.39]

Ping statistics for 206.16.60.39
Packets: Sent = 8, Received = 8, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 59ms, Average = 54ms

Offline Skuzzy

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Host Connection Lost/ No Lost UDP
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2007, 06:13:43 AM »
Seems the network issue is within Bellsouth.  Have you sent this to them?
Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
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Offline RightF00T

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Host Connection Lost/ No Lost UDP
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 10:25:02 AM »
Skuzzy I was thinking it was the way I was connecting to the internet.  Are there any settings to tweak to make a Wireless connection more stable?  Its just really weird that I will have a solid connection and then instant boot, yet I load up a webpage immediately and it loads right up.

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Host Connection Lost/ No Lost UDP
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 03:12:08 PM »
when i first got cable and decided to setup my apartment with 802.11g, I got some cheap D-link wireless router from Target... it seemed to work with "typical internet usage", browsing, email, etc. but would absolutely not work with any type of online game.

I decided to get a linksys wireless router, and now everything works, including games. I have no idea why, but I ain't complaining.. we have 3 laptops using the same connection (all in aces high at the same time, to boot), and have minimal connection issues (though yesterday I did lose udp and got disco'd once).

so, my solution was a new router, and I still dont know why the old one didn't work properly.
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Host Connection Lost/ No Lost UDP
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 03:56:30 PM »
Wireless will never be as reliable as a wired connection.  There are always bit errors in a wireless connection.  Fortunately, TCP can take care of that by re-trying the packet.  However, UDP packets with errors are just lost.

Relaying through another PC to get to the wireless connection also introduces a potential for more problems.

Simepl enough to test all this out.  Just connect directly to the Internet connection, by-passing the wireless and PC.

But, the trace you posted does have packet loss problems in the Bellsouth network.
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