one 4 the learners #2

[Major Biggles]

my apologies too lynx, didn't mean to show you up

keep these threads up though, it's not only good for the noobs but the vets too. you never stop learning in this game, infact i think i've started forgetting things!!

[Major Biggles]

Originally posted by sgt203
As I am not very good as a fighter pilot but in the interest of learning I will add my $.02..

The Hurri did a split esse to avoid the BnZ of the higher and apparently faster P-51.

IMO the purpose it served was to 1 avoid the BnZ and trade some alt for speed to possibly try and gain separation..

I would think the 51 should chop some (not alot) of throttle and pull an immelman which would put him on the high 6 of the hurri and would have bled off some speed..

At this time he can either press quickly for another BnZ attack or begin a slower decent onto the hurri to be better able to gain a shooting solution on the hurri who is still going to be lower and slower and is still on the defensive..

I would not however try and get into a turn fight with the hurri..

I would try and maintain an alt and speed advantage at all times during the fight.

As a fairly lousy fighter guy that is what I would probably do..

OK... commence with the Schooling  

P.S. Like the threads make for some good reading <<>>

not bad sgt although the split-S of the hurri isn't a great idea because it does make it easier for the pony

as for the pony and not turning, the great thing about the pony is that it doesn't need to turn, it's a much better E fighter than the hurri (don't confuse E fighting with BnZ). it can win the fight by using immelmans and things that the hurri can't follow. then you just rope him or chase him down

important thing though is not to get suckered into the turnfight. keep your energy advantage and be aggressive, keep him on the defensive. you were fairly spot on though sgt, good job

[JohnnyT]

Originally posted by eskimo2
Looks like a big "k" to me.  I bet it was followed by an "f" then a "c".

ROFLMAO

[LYNX]

There have been some interesting responses.  Different idea's for the Hurri and the P51.  All of which could be used.  I think the bottom line for the p51 was said by VAD.....

In any case I would keep control of the fight.

p.s the p51 actually flew off.  I killed him 4 or 5 min later over TT.

[CAP1]

Originally posted by LYNX
Name this maneuver (centre picture).  

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What purpose did it serve?  
What would you now do if you was the P51?

P.S the other plane is a Hurri IIC

i think its a split S. i would htink he did this to evade the pony commin at him at mach 3.4.......i think if i was that supersonic pony, i'd go back up, roll out level, and see what the hurri does next? if he gets stupid and tries to come up to me, i'll wait till i think he's bout to stall, or at least just realy low on E, then drop in for a quick shot........the one thing i would ABSOLUTLY NOT allow is for him to get those cannons pointed at me.........but i may be wrong here, as i'm still somewhat new, and don't kill anywhere near as much as i should be able to........yet.

[humble]

1st IMO the pony is creating needless seperation....he should be going vertical and more than likely off the gas...

As for the hurricane...

It appears the hurricane was climbing up into the path of the pony....which to me is a fundemental violation of ACM (as I interpret a still image)....or the pony was late in recognizing a threat....is that a piece of pony in the middle of the "C"?


I'm almost guessing the hurricane had E and was able to climb up for a belly shot and rolled over to reload his E state. The problem with a still image is that there is no right or wrong ACM taken out of the broader context. without that context you can make all kinds of assumptions...

A picture is worth a thousand words....and a 20 second film clip is worth a thousand pictures....