The collapsed bridge in Oakland

[Mickey1992]

Originally posted by john9001
everything qualifies for disaster aid, because uncle sam has lots an lots of money.

....44% of that money was borrowed from foreign investors.  Spend away!  

[Shuffler]

lol we are still paying money to folks who thought living below sea level and not getting insurance was a good idea. What ever happened to people being responsible for themselves. They saved money by not getting insurance...... now I pay my insurance and I insure them....


Sorry one post made me think of that ...... not trying to hijack

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
It won't mater how fast the fix job could be done.

Cal trans is going to be the ones to fix it, so therefore it will take about 5Xs longer then even the worst contractor could do it.

Hmmm they must be run like they are here in Jersey.

5 Guys to a crew
1 to work
4 to watch the one guy work

Least whenever I see roadwork being done by the state thats what I typically see

[Hornet33]

I don't understand why it should take them so long to get it fixed. It's right next to the new bridge that's being built. They already have hundreds of road workers and bridge building experts on sight with their equipment. Stop working on the new bridge for a couple of weeks and fix the damaged section of the overpass. DUH????

OH WAIT!!!!!!! It's in commiefornia so any common sense approach like that wont work. Never mind....spend more taxpayer money and drag it out for months. Yep that's what will happen.

I'm SURE Commie Queen Nancy is already trying to figure out how to blame Bush for this AND skim some money off the top of any federal aid for some bullchit feel good save the gays hackysack playground in the park program.

[Chairboy]

Hornet, does the stream-of-consciousness stuff come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by Hornet33
I don't understand why it should take them so long to get it fixed. It's right next to the new bridge that's being built. They already have hundreds of road workers and bridge building experts on sight with their equipment. Stop working on the new bridge for a couple of weeks and fix the damaged section of the overpass. DUH????

OH WAIT!!!!!!! It's in commiefornia so any common sense approach like that wont work. Never mind....spend more taxpayer money and drag it out for months. Yep that's what will happen.

I'm SURE Commie Queen Nancy is already trying to figure out how to blame Bush for this AND skim some money off the top of any federal aid for some bullchit feel good save the gays hackysack playground in the park program.

More incoherent ramblings from a 30%er. Tell me, how can California be  #5 or #6 in the world economicaly if there is such a 'communist' influence as you have suggested?

Here's a revelatinn for ya, you and the rest of the 30%ers are becomming increasingly irrelevant and at the same time more idiotic in your ramblings.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Hornet33
I'm SURE Commie Queen Nancy is already trying to figure out how to blame Bush for this AND skim some money off the top of any federal aid for some bullchit feel good save the gays hackysack playground in the park program.

Sounds like we got another victim in the war on reality.

[L'EMMERDEUR]

It must suck to go through life seeing everything through politically tinted glasses.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmm they must be run like they are here in Jersey.

5 Guys to a crew
1 to work
4 to watch the one guy work

Least whenever I see roadwork being done by the state thats what I typically see

Exactly


AS an example.

We had the big qauke in 89.  The they had a big one is Socal a year or so later.

The freeways in Socal were done before they fixed the freeways in the bay area.

Why? Well Socal used contractors and gave a bonus of over a million bucks if he got it done before deadline. Gues who got 1 Million bucks.

Bay area used Caltrans, they finished up at a nice slow pace.

Granted this is all memory and it was a long time ago so I could be wrong on some details.

Still, I drive buy a major work site and you NEVER see more then 1 guy working.

[Wolfala]

Oddly enough, I was flying over the bridge when it exploded when comming back from Petaluma. It was weird b/c there was a low fog over and then the flash.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Army Corps of Engineers gets involved to get a temporary fix. Years back on the east coast when a tanker blew up on I-95 in Bridgeport - they had a temp structure in about 4 days.

Wolf

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Remember the difference between mechanical engineering and civil engineering:

Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets.

[kamilyun]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Oh, so San Franciscans do not use it?

I'd say less than 10% of the traffic on the Bay Bridge is San Franciscans.  Most of the traffic on the bridge is people coming into SF to work (Oakland/Berkeley/Livermore residents, etc).  Other than a Raiders or A's game, I haven't been over to Oakland/East Bay for anything and even then, you're better off taking the BART b/c traffic is crazy around the games.

[Hornet33]

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
It must suck to go through life seeing everything through politically tinted glasses.

Not really, but since you ask I will say this. I have lived in commiefornia and have been out there for work more times than I can count. The elected officials out there make me sick with most of their ideas. I couldn't even move into the state as it is right now without breaking the law. Not because I'm a lawless person but because many of the things I own and many of the things I like to do are illegal in commiefornia. Also most people I've met while out there I can't stand. Why?? Because all they ever do is talk about how great it is to live there and how everyone else in this country is stupid if we don't think like they do. I feel comfortable going anyplace in this country except there. In commiefornia I'm an outsider. Not because I want to be, but because those idiots that live there make me feel that way. Having traveled all over this country and many different places around the world, commiefornia is on the top of my personal "The crappiest places to live" list.

Politically tinted glasses??? Maybe, but they are no more tinted than yours.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Why not use the military to get something up in the meantime until it can be rebuilt?

I wonder why all those "Baby Killers" haven't gone and fixed it already?

[lukster]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
I wonder why all those "Baby Killers" haven't gone and fixed it already?

Maybe they can get SF's ROTC to donate some labor.