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Offline JB73

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2007, 08:48:43 PM »
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If you attack someone, do you get all their money they havent pocketed or just a percentage of it?
you get money they have not picked up yet at their distribution centers, and you do not take it all (or maybe with enough dudes)

each militia steals $1000.


i don't know about other units yet.


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Hey JB, have you gotten any nasty PM's from the people you've been raiding? Or have they been AFK the whole time?
nope not a single message.... yet...
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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2007, 08:57:15 PM »
Neat! Just carried out several attack with 20 militia, took $20,000 a number of times.

I did attack one guy though, he killed 14 of my men.

Upgrade time :D
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« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2007, 09:22:19 PM »
seems one of my farms didn't like me raiding and made some troops... they got keeld :D

also I have started raiding storage tanks and stealing crude and kerosene so far ;)
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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2007, 09:22:31 PM »
Can someone take a look at my facility 1080x1530 and tell me how i'm looking and what settings I should use/
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« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2007, 09:25:46 PM »
Controlling the flow of resources from this storage facility is critical to your success. Indicate which output, if any, should be sold through your distribution center.

Crude Oil: 472 Bbl    YES    NO  
Kerosene: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Heating Oil: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Gasoline: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Fuel is available to military?   YES    NO
 
so am I saving kerosene?
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« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2007, 09:31:27 PM »
Cav, you're gonna need a refinery to make anything other than Crude oil, I suggest that as your next purchase.  Plus, as soon as you get some money, upgrade one of your tank settings to lvl. 2.

If all of your wells are lvl. 1, you can double production by upgrading them to lvl. 2 for less than if you buy and place more wells.

Add a 2nd Refinery as soon as you can, so you can turn kerosene into Heating oil( It sells for twice as much as crude)
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« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2007, 09:37:49 PM »
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Controlling the flow of resources from this storage facility is critical to your success. Indicate which output, if any, should be sold through your distribution center.

Crude Oil: 472 Bbl    YES    NO  
Kerosene: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Heating Oil: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Gasoline: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl    YES    NO  
Fuel is available to military?   YES    NO
 
so am I saving kerosene?
umm no. you only "save" if you set the sale to no for any item at that storage facility.
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« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2007, 09:39:44 PM »
ok Frode, lemme see if I get this right...

to make heating oil you have pumps going to tanks. tanks do not sell crude or kerosene, and the 1 refinery making kerosene, and another attached to the same tank making heating oil?




also does anyone know how far physically apart the things can be to work? does the refinery have to be adjacent to the tanks to work?
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« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2007, 09:42:13 PM »
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seems one of my farms didn't like me raiding and made some troops... they got keeld :D

also I have started raiding storage tanks and stealing crude and kerosene so far ;)



What are the ratios for crude, kero for theft?
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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2007, 09:46:19 PM »
So that makes Jet fuel the most profitable, with Crude second-most profitable, on a profit/hour basis, although JF is offset by four refineries' purchase price if you want its production and sale to be automated.
So it might not be preferable over Crude at first, most likely not for CeaseFire's duration.
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« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2007, 09:46:31 PM »
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What are the ratios for crude, kero for theft?


don't know what he had to begin with but:

Amount Stolen:
# 80 Bbl Crude Oil
# 120 Bbl Kerosene

Amount Stolen:
# 60 Bbl Crude Oil
# 91 Bbl Kerosene

that second attack either took all he had,. or like ogame there's a limit you can only take so much. I don't honestly know.


that was sending 20 militia BTW
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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2007, 09:51:07 PM »
I think I started an addiction here :D
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« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2007, 09:57:05 PM »
Ok, I know now, 600 bbl. of Jet fuel fetched $255,000.

JB, I made 1,000 barrels of Jet using 2 refineries, but it took awhile. It would be better the way Moot said, get 4 refineries, make it automated. Plus, As far as I can tell, all you got to do is make sure they are connected.
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« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2007, 10:18:38 PM »
Well I'm too tired to crunch all the numbers to figure out all the costs and profits to compare Crude and JetFuel farming in an early game where you're not expending any money in anything else than oil :p

On a production time basis, JF makes 13% more profits than CO.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but four refineries would take a long time to pay themselves off, unless you've got a really big pumping throughtput.
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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2007, 10:19:12 PM »
just read on the help forums:

http://www.itch.com/app/index.php?showtopic=891

you don;t have to make things "connected" as in touching


which helps me out alot, got some trees in the way.
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