Author Topic: OK Larry/TK (Read 2871 times)

KONG1 · « **Reply #75 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Oldman731
"Take us as we are, or we'll leave and you'll die"?

Faking a quote and then condemning it is extraordinarily intellectually dishonest.

Shame on you old one.

sparow · « **Reply #76 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:27:06 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
Dan,

without our participation there is no AvA. the point has been amply proven by JG54 time and again. when we vacate the arena dies.
the arena needs more players like us

This is exactly what we don't need: AvA is for all. It is not, never was and never will be owned by any individual, any squadron, any member of Staff.

If you fly here, you fly what you're given to fly. You don't like, go elsewhere. Play H2H. Go away.

If I was your boss, I'd fire you this instant. This is blackmail. I don't accept blackmail.

If you guys think that AvA is yours, you're wrong.

If you think that you are indispensable, you're wrong.

If you think that AvA will disappear if you leave, you're wrong.

If you want to leave, leave.

If you stay, you eat what the other guys eat and make no fuss.

Go to MA, go to H2H, make your own game, make your own rules. Away from AvA, away from AH.

I'm sick and tired to hear you guys whine. For this, for that. And that too. Behave like men.

Sparow

KONG1 · « **Reply #77 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:29:53 PM »

More strawman bs

storch · « **Reply #78 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:31:56 PM »

some of you guys seem to have a problem with real facts. I did not say we were the AvA I said that without our participation the AvA is empty. this is true. you have convinced me though. I'll stay out of the arena. I can't speak for the rest of JG54 but as for myself I'm done for a bit. I'll take that bet slash. can you afford to pony up if you lose?

Grits · « **Reply #79 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:39:47 PM »

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Originally posted by KONG1
Faking a quote and then condemning it is extraordinarily intellectually dishonest.

Shame on you old one.

That was not an accurate paraphrase of what Storch said?

storch · « **Reply #80 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:41:37 PM »

not at all

Guppy35 · « **Reply #81 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:43:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
That was not an accurate paraphrase of what Storch said?

That's how it came across to me as well.

Grits · « **Reply #82 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:48:58 PM »

I took it the same way as well, maybe that was not the intent, but thats how I read it.

Larry · « **Reply #83 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:49:09 PM »

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Originally posted by sparow
This is exactly what we don't need: AvA is for all. It is not, never was and never will be owned by any individual, any squadron, any member of Staff.
If you fly here, you fly what you're given to fly. You don't like, go elsewhere. Play H2H. Go away.
If I was your boss, I'd fire you this instant. This is blackmail. I don't accept blackmail.
If you guys think that AvA is yours, you're wrong.
If you think that you are indispensable, you're wrong.
If you think that AvA will disappear if you leave, you're wrong.
If you want to leave, leave.
If you stay, you eat what the other guys eat and make no fuss.
Go to MA, go to H2H, make your own game, make your own rules. Away from AvA, away from AH.
I'm sick and tired to hear you guys whine. For this, for that. And that too. Behave like men.
Sparow

Sparow We have left a few times before and when we did the arena stayed empty, because there was no one to fight and people got tired of fighting squadies. Then when we came back numbers came back. Without an enemy to fight there is no fight. Same would happen if the allied squads left.

KONG1 · « **Reply #84 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:54:18 PM »

For Grits and Dawn:

http://www.readingcomprehensionconnection.com/

Guppy35 · « **Reply #85 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:56:52 PM »

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Originally posted by KONG1
For Grits and Dawn:

http://www.readingcomprehensionconnection.com/

This from a guy who doesn't know how to spell "Blondes"

storch · « **Reply #86 on:** May 14, 2007, 05:08:27 PM »

when we left as JG3 the arena emptied. we returned when jester and lowe formed up JG54.

JG54 brought back the opposition, the fights returned and so did the numbers.

JG54 broke up and was no more. the arena again emptied.

AHII further crippled the CT.

JG54 arose again under VWE001 and the fights returned though not with the same level of participation as when during AHI.

the real destroyer was AHII but within that if there are no fights there is no CT/AvA.

once again for you guys who insist on villifying myself and others by association. there is no game without a fight. if we (JG54) don't consistently come into the arena and fight no one else does.

it's a pretty simple concept. you should allow your personal prejudices to pass over you and read what is being presented.

that is not to say that someone else might not take up the baton and run with it a while and there are others who consistently show 1Duke1, oldman etc. but bye and large that's about it.

but here you have a golden opportunity to prove me wrong. I'll stay away from the AvA. I won't log as storch or as a shade either but I'll monitor and log arena numbers every time I log onto the game. let's see what the numbers tell.

maybe stampf and his troop of runners will pick up the slack for the arena. we'll see.

sparow · « **Reply #87 on:** May 14, 2007, 05:18:19 PM »

AvA is a place where we "try" to have historical matchups. That does not mean that those matchups be 100% correct planewise ant it's not because the AvA Staff doesn't try...Too many holes in the planeset, too many models missing. It doesn't matter. We are supposed to fly what we have to fly according to period and scenario.

It doesn't suit your style? Too bad.

It goes two ways, you know? If you invent a game of your own you will probably not find who to fight against...

Fly, fight, don't argue about planesets, be constructive, accept history.

But don't blackmail us! If you push it that way, I say, leave.

I am the first to admit that JG54 has some of the most competent Axis flyers I know in AH. But none is invincible, and it's a shame that you keep whining for more pleaseant setups, when you don't need that, and try to ruin one of the two only things that maka AvA unique (one is historical matchups, the other is 2 country Axis vs Allied format).

And, when agains all reason, you fail to make a silly point, you say you leave. Go, we will fair better without you whining about everything.

It's your call, never threaten to do something you can't or you don't have the courage to keep.

And TrueKill, Larry, listen to me: the other day, when we met in AvA and we were alone, I was leaving but hold on for a few minutes because you had logged and looking for a fight, remember?

I let you climb, then I attacked. We fought a clean fight, good manouevering, you crossed my sights, I took a shot, I shot you down. You thought I was flying a Spit9, I was flying a Spit5 and you were surprised.

When I landed, I was trying to contact you, but you already had logged out.

I wanted to have a word with you because of that time when I was roaming around in CT in a JG54 Squad Event evening, do you remember that?

It was the only occasion in all these years that I argued with someone in AH. You remember why? I talked about that with Storch once.

Well, I was going to tell you that I would delete that episode if at least we could calmly talk about it and explained between ourselves.

To be honest, this attitude of "Let us have it our way or we're gone" is very much like that "We're running an event, leave" you once tried on me...
I see that it is a recurrent attitude...

Now, I don't think that I will believe a word you guys say, sorry. Trust takes many years to build and lasts while it lasts. Distrust, only a few seconds to settle and it's for life.

Sorry,

Sparow

KONG1 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 14, 2007, 05:28:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
This from a guy who doesn't know how to spell "Blondes"

Actually both are correct spellings.

Upon further research(wikipedia):

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Writers of English will still distinguish between the masculine blond and the feminine blonde[2] and, as such, it is one of the few adjectives in English with separate masculine and feminine forms.

However, many writers use only one of the spellings without regard to gender, and without a clear majority usage one way or another.

Since some consider the form wo the e to be masculine maybe I should change it. Don't want to give Grits false hope.

Larry · « **Reply #89 on:** May 14, 2007, 05:37:51 PM »

Was that when I was turn fighting you in a C202. If so let me tell you I play on dialup and I loose UDP and get discod atlease 3-5 times a day. I think that was one of the times I discod. This setup isnt "historical" for th guys who are flying the FSOs to practice. AvA is more like a "fair historical" setup. If it will unbalance the arena I dont think the CMs will let it stay, or so I think.