Changing things through

[moot]

Odee, I remember being grateful of having been warned about things that turn your wee to bleeding mush or warty scabs at about 12 years old.

Coaching kids' sexual orientation will work depending primarily on what the kid's sexual experience/education was beforehand, i.e. how well the parents did their job and what influences the kid had on its own.
I'm not sure if you meant that.

[Dadano]

You think some 14 year old is going to remember anything past "go have sex"? They'll hear "blah blahblah go have sex, and blahblah use drugs."

Yes, I do. I do not think the Becker stood up in front of a group of teens and said, "I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately." Then sat back down. He probably elaborated on safe sexual practices and how not to use drugs safely ie NOT abuse them. (yes, you can use drugs safely)

In what world is it proper to coach children in sexual orientation? How is he planning on demonstrating "Same Sex Safety"?

Please point out anything quoted from Becker that addresses sexual orientation. The author of the article does say, "WND also has reported on similar assemblies that have been used by schools to promote homosexuality...", but they leave out any kind of quote from Becker promoting homosexuality. This article is a farce.
How about, "He played a recording of an "unidentified male" saying: "We all experiment. It's very natural for young people to experiment with same sex relationships. When you are 13, 12, 13, 14 certainly probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some maybe I'd do it with someone, but you know."
The transcript obtained by WND showed those comments also were from Becker."
Why wouldn't WND or Fox simply quote Becker saying that if they had it in a transcript? Why in the world would it be an unidentified male?
"and the fools get fooled again..."

[Dadano]

Bingo, found the transcript.
I cannot believe you guys didn't see through that article and O'Really's silly fibs. It isn't rocket surgery people! Get real!

[Eagler]

I think you are giving HS students too much credit ... they hear what they want to hear and act accordingly.

[wrag]

Originally posted by Dadano
What are we up in arms about?
Safe sex?
What is wrong with teaching kids about how to stay healthy?

My kids are out of school but my grandkids are still going.

I think the response is WHO gave these people the right to teach my kids this stuff?

To agree with this happening, IMHO, is missing the point.

Parents are very often NOT consulted about what their offspring are being taught.

Was a time when this was NOT the case.

The point is, many see this sort of behaviour as a teaching system that is out of control, going too far, and taking the parents, who by the way are the ones paying for it, out of the education loop.

As to teaching Safe Sex?

I'm pretty sure many parents, taking the current crop of STD's out there, are doing their best to see that their offspring are informed.

As to the same ....  I don't care if such occures between consenting adults that I hope are aware of any and all risk.

I DO NOT think a teacher, or instructor, telling a 14 year old that same .... is OK or NOT OK.  

It isn't a teachers job IMHO.

I know I didn't hire em to do that.

Further I don't think our government, or our schools, have the right to decide for us what is alright or not alright in that department.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Eagler
..they hear what they want to hear and act accordingly.

Funny you say that:lol

[Dadano]

The point is, many see this sort of behavior as a teaching system that is out of control, going too far, and taking the parents, who by the way are the ones paying for it, out of the education loop.

You don't even know what they were talking about. All you know of it is from a garbage piece of writing spewed by some biased site on the internet.
Read the transcript.

[Odee]

Originally posted by Dadano
You don't even know what they were talking about. All you know of it is from a garbage piece of writing spewed by some biased site on the internet.
Read the transcript.

I think you are misinterpreting what is in black and white there, sport.  Try reading the whole thing a piece at a time...  Maybe it will sink in,

[lazs2]

yep...  my grand daughter is not catholic but she will be going there... They will teach her reading and history and science and they will not be bothering with the other stuff.. she will get more actual useful schooling than is possible in the worthless public schools.

There was not only a waiting list but... she had to go to a class and interact with the other students for a day and be observed.. if she did not react to the schools satisfaction she would not have been accepted.

If she disturbs the class or is unwilling to learn or keep up with the other students she will be kicked out.   Her sex education and politics and marx will not be taught in the school..  she will learn to read and do math.

She will get all this for far less than we all pay to put a student through a public school and it's agendized and academically inferior program.

If we had vouchers... everyone who wanted a good education could get one and  America would be smarter and better able to cope with the real world.

We are getting screwed by the teachers and their union and the democrat lackeys who pander to em.

lazs

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Odee
I think you are misinterpreting what is in black and white there, sport.  Try reading the whole thing a piece at a time...  Maybe it will sink in,

What I am assuming is that nobody really wants to read the transcript, or look into the sources of the article. In the words of Eagler, "they hear what they want to hear and act accordingly."
I am not attacking peoples opinions here, only the quality of the article. It is rotten information and if ingested and not treated with "context", it could lead to ignorance and a bad case irritable bowel syndrome.

[Eagler]

as I stated, they are HS students..

the only thing on their minds are boobs and beer pong ..

laz stated it best

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Eagler
as I stated, they are HS students..
the only thing on their minds are boobs and beer pong ..
laz stated it best

Read the freaking transcript! You'll see, via the question and answer section, that these kids are in fact interested in more than "boobs and beer pong".
Believe it or not I learned Shakespeare and Calculus in my "academically inferior"  high school. I also learned to not tear the packaging of the rubber with my teeth but with my hands. I am eternally grateful on all accounts. Things have changed, "stupid" isn't as cool as it used to be when you went to school.

[lazs2]

I am hoping that my grand daughter will use the time you spent learning about rubbers to learn more about shakespeare and calculus than you did.

The more time they spend on the unimportant stuff the less time they have to learn the important.  

lazs

[Dadano]

Originally posted by lazs2
I am hoping that my grand daughter will use the time you spent learning about rubbers to learn more about shakespeare and calculus than you did.

The more time they spend on the unimportant stuff the less time they have to learn the important.  

lazs

Careful,  she might be too busy having morning sickness in the girls bathroom to appreciate Shakespeare's literary genius with that attitude:lol

[eskimo2]

This is in Boulder Colorado; you could only find a place thicker with hippies in Kalifornia.  Even then you’d have to search around a bit.