Rank is meaningless, but....

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Nilsen
I say we take rank and score out of the game. Maybe keep stats. It would kill EW/MW arenas tho, but it doesnt look like those arenas are used for _much_ more than milkrunning anyway.

I say we take Nilsen out of the game.





(BTW, I would even expand the score thingy. Give EW & MW a seperate score, just like the AvA. Capturing udefended bases there wouldn't help your rank anymore then...)

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Lusche
Give EW & MW a seperate score

sounds fine by me

(I still say we take it away and keep stats for personal use only)

[killnu]

Everybody fought, even the timid guys and we all had fun

I was here then as well.  I still run into the majority that fight...and it is the large majority.  Not all of them turn fight...but they fight.  It is a minority that run to maintain score.  There are more that run...but not just for scores sake.  I think most that run now, would run with or without score. They run because that is all they know...run far enough away to turn back around without giving up a shot...they dont know how to force an overshoot.  I say that, because a lot of them when they do get caught...or attempt an overshoot...they either fail miserably or it turns into some kind of stir looking thing.

[cleve]

Originally posted by Stang
Who cares how many kills you have?  I wouldn't mind if you didn't get any recognition of kills at the end of a run.

Now this I agree with 100%, I have seen some pilots pull out of a fight just to have their name up in lights...bad form

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by cleve
Now this I agree with 100%, I have seen some pilots pull out of a fight just to have their name up in lights...bad form

Yep.   It happened last night.    This "chodes" buddies fell like flies he tried running, and never landed.    Rank = Timidity.

[The Fugitive]

I think getting your name in lights is a big thing for the newbies. Its the second hurdle a pilot of cartoon planes hits..... first being getting your first kill. Being a "game" there will always be a way to keep score, other wise why play?

If there were no scores, those of us that like to fly and fight would stay, because its what we like. On the other hand those that play for the score that they get.....however they may earn it.... would leave. My thinking is that HTC is going to use everything they can to keep as large a player base as they can.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
I think getting your name in lights is a big thing for the newbies. Its the second hurdle a pilot of cartoon planes hits..... first being getting your first kill. Being a "game" there will always be a way to keep score, other wise why play?

If there were no scores, those of us that like to fly and fight would stay, because its what we like. On the other hand those that play for the score that they get.....however they may earn it.... would leave. My thinking is that HTC is going to use everything they can to keep as large a player base as they can.

All very true.

We can still make fun of the pointmongers though, can't we?

- oldman

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Rank = Timidity.

thats BS

I've met high ranked pilots deliberatly taking on many enemies without regard to their own safety and I have seen a lot consistently low ranked players run for 4 sectors whenever a red icon came in range. Rank says nada.

Personally, I had always the same flying/combat style. I acted the same "timid" way when I didn't know about ranks at all, when I was ranked around #1500 as I do now when I'm ranked <10 most of my time. Take away the ranks and I will still fly that way.

 I try to accomplish my mission and to stay alive & land as well. That's part of my silly pretending being a WW2 cartoon combat pilot
Just diving into a sea of red and turnfighting until I go down is not enough for me. Sometimes I do it, but in the long run, I find that kind of airquake pretty boring
Sometimes I just consider a sortie succesfull if I managed to land my badly shot up plane at all, without getting any kills. I take some risks but usually I don't try and push my luck. Of course, with increasing skill over the time, the "risks" I am willing to take in my cartoon plane increase as well.

My currently high rank is a result of that playing style, not vice versa. I do all aspects of this game, from dogfighting to GV combat, because I enjoy them, not because getting a high rank requires it.

One tour I tried to fly for rank out of pure curiosity. I found it extremely boring and tiresome, greatly reducing my fun. And it wasn't even very succesfull at all...

(And while I'm at it: It's a pure myth that you have to milkrun EW & MW all day to get a high rank. It's only a requirement to get #1 in bombers )


The funny thing is, the only people constantly talking about rank are the ones claiming not to care about it.
All those nice insulting PM I get just because of my rank, like "Now you think your 1337, but you suck"  make me smile, because I never say nor think such things... but apparently those guys do
And if you belive I smash my keyboard or go into fits if I'm shot down. I have to disappoint you - After getting shot down approx. 4000 times in this game, I am pretty used to it

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Lusche
thats BS

I've met high ranked pilots deliberatly taking on many enemies without regard to their own safety and I have seen a lot consistently low ranked players run for 4 sectors whenever a red icon came in range. Rank says nada.

Personally, I had always the same flying/combat style. I acted the same "timid" way when I didn't know about ranks at all, when I was ranked around #1500 as I do now when I'm ranked <10 most of my time. Take away the ranks and I will still fly that way.

 I try to accomplish my mission and to stay alive & land as well. That's part of my silly pretending being a WW2 cartoon combat pilot
Just diving into a sea of red and turnfighting until I go down is not enough for me. Sometimes I do it, but in the long run, I find that kind of airquake pretty boring
Sometimes I just consider a sortie succesfull if I managed to land my badly shot up plane at all, without getting any kills. I take some risks but usually I don't try and push my luck. Of course, with increasing skill over the time, the "risks" I am willing to take in my cartoon plane increase as well.

My currently high rank is a result of that playing style, not vice versa. I do all aspects of this game, from dogfighting to GV combat, because I enjoy them, not because getting a high rank requires it.

One tour I tried to fly for rank out of pure curiosity. I found it extremely boring and tiresome, greatly reducing my fun. And it wasn't even very succesfull at all...

(And while I'm at it: It's a pure myth that you have to milkrun EW & MW all day to get a high rank. It's only a requirement to get #1 in bombers )


The funny thing is, the only people constantly talking about rank are the ones claiming not to care about it.
All those nice insulting PM I get just because of my rank, like "Now you think your 1337, but you suck"  make me smile, because I never say nor think such things... but apparently those guys do
And if you belive I smash my keyboard or go into fits if I'm shot down. I have to disappoint you - After getting shot down approx. 4000 times in this game, I am pretty used to it

Funny how opinions vary, eh?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Funny how opinions vary, eh?

Yes, funny.

[Stampf]

Maybe the ranking system is not perfect, what is?  But what Lusche says is very true, for myself atleast.  I never finish a tour with a score much better than top 50 and right now I'm outside that mark.  You don't have to milkrun for a good score, just kill and destroy alot of bad guys, and bad guys stuff.  I like to get home with my kills, not to "see my name in lights", but because I like immersion, and I like the feeling, the accomplishment.   To say rank is no measure at all of ones ability is off the mark imo.  Look at the top ranked 50 pilots:

Shawk is dangerous, Lusche is dangerous, Pacerr, ElevenK, and so on and so on.  Not everyone with a good score games the game to get it.  AKdogg is dangerous.  Ever run into Rondar in a one on one tank brawl?, the man is dangerous.  Are their players who speicialize in one thing and therfor their scores may not reflect thier skill level accuratly when compared to the entire population? Of course, always will be, but that doesn't nullify the accomplishments of those who prefer all aspects of the fight.  That's just my thoughts and no need to beat me up, cuz it's my birthday today, and my wife brought home a new flat 19'' for me to enjoy getting my planes home even more with.

[Masherbrum]

Pacerr is dangerous?   LMFAO.   I'm done.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Stampf
plishments of those who prefer all aspects of the fight.  That's just my thoughts and no need to beat me up, cuz it's my birthday today, and my wife brought home a new flat 19'' for me to enjoy getting my planes home even more with.

Happy birthday!

[Stampf]

It's all relevent Karaya.  Sure he flies La 7's more than anything else, and may be no threat at all to you in the sky, but his 706 kills so far this month probably frustrated at least a few enemy pilots.  This topic will go on and on just like the other 'Hot buttons" in the community.  Everyone is different (thank God), and that's the only thing that surely is not going to change.

[Stampf]

Thank you Lusche.