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Offline DiabloTX

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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2007, 08:42:57 PM »
We really should have a testing program for potential parents to be.

This has got me mad on so many levels.  How long has it been like this?  Don't pass the test you don't walk no matter what your GPA is?  I really hate the direction I see this country going.  Heh, I sound like my grandpa!
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2007, 09:07:29 PM »
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Geez, what a bunch of morans!

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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2007, 09:15:23 PM »
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We really should have a testing program for potential parents to be.
 


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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2007, 10:19:05 PM »
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Your doubts need to be directed toward the CA school system--saw similar thing in FLA some years ago--my cousin--bright kid, but behavioral nightmare--went to Catholic school for first 6 years...in 7th, went to public. Flunked--spent some time at summer school, squeaked by. (HE refused to do anything like homework, though he aced all his tests) flunked 8th grade twice, never even ENTERED high school. Took GED without any preparatory classes at all, aced it. I repeat, never ENTERED high school. In both areas, it would appear the bright kids are tied down with boat anchors so the walking doorknobs and stoners don't get too far behind. I remember in VA in the 60's and early 70's, there were some 5 groups of kids, all with innocuous names, but we ALL knew what group was what--the brightest on one end, the losers on the other. (How is a kid who is ready for Algebra NOT gonna fall asleep when put in same class with kids who haven't mastered @##%@#%# times tables?) Political correctness ended the above scenario, which may not have been the best for afore-mentioned losers, but DAMN sure screwed the bright kids. Now the end goal seems to be getting the walking doorknobs to pass the test. Thats why I got the hell out of the Tampa,FL public school system and raised my kid here in Roanoke. Too bad for kids like yours Sandy, but bright kids can always work harder than the school mandates.


Yeah.  How dare they tie down your cousin with homework?!  HOW DARE THEY?!
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« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2007, 02:49:37 AM »
I wouldn't know where to begin with the differences I found when I transfered to a rich american high school from a crappy french suburb equivalent.. Cultural differences aside, it felt like I was taken three years back, academicaly.  There was no rigour, competition was there but tiny and less personal.

"Extra credit", "will that be on the test?", "make-up work", lax deadlines, non-linear grading...
It was too easy.  I passed almost all my tests knowing 5min after walking out what few questions I missed and what the right answers were.. I'd follow in class, but my finals studying was basicaly one or two hours spent reading from books and notes at the test class' doorstep.

The very frank way to say it is that most of the kids there were too spoiled to care.  There were a few very good teachers that knew their stuff, but unfortunately they were too few to make enough of a difference.
Most kids would have known better if they'd spent some time abroad, though.

And I skipped the graduation thing to go see my GF graduate instead, but would have skipped it anyway.
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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2007, 09:18:23 AM »
vouchers...

Time to kill off the teachers unions and their highly paid part time workers.

A test to see if you can be a parent or not?   LOL... yeah.. that would make you seem unbigoted now wouldn't it?   can you imagine the accusations of racial profiling and downright genocide?

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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2007, 09:55:16 AM »
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One of the problems with TAKS is schools have stopped teaching the course and started teaching the test. Higher test scores mean more state and federal money. Whether the kids actually learn anything is secondary.
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Yeah, but the tests were in response to some kids graduating as virtual illiterates.    So before the tests, whether the kids actually learned anything was still secondary...
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2007, 12:15:31 PM »
I passed a similar test when I was in high school, and the teachers usualy caved in to students asking them to teach them the test.
The kids need to want to at least earn the grades, and idealy feel as hungry for knowledge as for earthly goods. The hamster wheel won't turn itself.
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