Author Topic: Can a F-22 fly like this? (Read 2780 times)

Wes14 · « **on:** June 22, 2007, 12:47:47 PM »

gotta love the Su-37

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1K3 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2007, 12:58:52 PM »

It's already in production, and it's called Su-30MK

Bronk · « **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:00:17 PM »

Mehh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Q6Vb9xJM0

Bronk

1K3 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:06:45 PM »

Gotta love the (classified) skin-coating on F/A-22s. It looks like the stuff you see from sci-fi shows/movies

MstWntd · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:34:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Mehh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Q6Vb9xJM0

Bronk

It seems all they were doing is showing off how it could go vert. But yes, the F-22 and F35 will be far better than anything the Russians and British have to offer.

Yeager · « **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »

I remember going to airshows when the F15 and F16 were just new babes showing their stuff. Those were exciting shows. When I see todays fighters going through their paces, I just cant help but feel unimpressed.

Maybe its all these silly flight sims Ive played over the years...

MORAY37 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:20:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Spikey
It seems all they were doing is showing off how it could go vert. But yes, the F-22 and F35 will be far better than anything the Russians and British have to offer.

Yet, unfortunately, the F22 will come in second when you look at the Saab Gripen. It is widely reguarded as the best airframe in the world. There is an outstanding challenge by the Saab Corporation that their bird will wax any other in ACM, specifically aimed at the F-22. The AF has declined to accept the challenge. Stealth Technology is the only thing that makes the F22 more marketable, which, any defense analyst will tell you, is becoming outmoded. Stealth, or "radar invisibility" is stepped around by less technological means. F22 is great, but I put my money on the Gripen.

Spikes · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:27:41 PM »

Yes. But, like I said if the F/A-22 does not beat the Gripen, then the F-35 JSF will blow it away.

Mr No Name · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:53:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
I remember going to airshows when the F15 and F16 were just new babes showing their stuff. Those were exciting shows. When I see todays fighters going through their paces, I just cant help but feel unimpressed.

Maybe its all these silly flight sims Ive played over the years...

I agree, best airshow I have ever seen (Most Impressive) was the Blue Angels in Phantoms

Second Best was the Thunderbirds, In Phantoms

Angus · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:54:28 PM »

Untill swamped by a gang-banging hoarde of Gripens, or anything really, - I put my bucks on RC bugs...

Ripsnort · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:57:07 PM »

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Originally posted by SpikesX
Yes. But, like I said if the F/A-22 does not beat the Gripen, then the F-35 JSF will blow it away.

F-22:
80 times less visible than the current F-15, providing the important advantage of first look, first shot, before enemy aircraft even know it's there. Additionally, its stealth allows the fighter to get close to a target and out before the bombs explode. This, coupled with the F-22's ability to operate at altitudes of more than 50,000 feet, puts it out of reach of many surface-to-air missiles, or SAMs. Unlike its predecessors, the new plane also has the ability to supercruise -- to fly at better than Mach 1.5 without using an afterburner, greatly saving fuel. It allows for a hit-and-run before ever being identified or fired on. Finally, the new fighter is extremely agile, with an ability to recover from a 60-degree angle of attack. In all, it is reported to be the most technologically advanced jet ever built.

I'd take a F-22 with a U.S. Airforce pilot over any aircraft in the world and give you 4 to 1 odds.

john9001 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:03:09 PM »

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Originally posted by MORAY37
It is widely reguarded ---------There is an outstanding challenge --------- declined to accept the challenge. -------------------- any defense analyst will tell you,

yadayadayada, americans build crap, your-o-peeans build better planes, cars, wine, hammers, saws, motorcycles, bicycles, toothpicks, and the euro is better than the dollar.

it gets boring.

Wes14 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:12:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
F-22:
80 times less visible than the current F-15, providing the important advantage of first look, first shot, before enemy aircraft even know it's there. Additionally, its stealth allows the fighter to get close to a target and out before the bombs explode. This, coupled with the F-22's ability to operate at altitudes of more than 50,000 feet, puts it out of reach of many surface-to-air missiles, or SAMs. Unlike its predecessors, the new plane also has the ability to supercruise -- to fly at better than Mach 1.5 without using an afterburner, greatly saving fuel. It allows for a hit-and-run before ever being identified or fired on. Finally, the new fighter is extremely agile, with an ability to recover from a 60-degree angle of attack. In all, it is reported to be the most technologically advanced jet ever built.

I'd take a F-22 with a U.S. Airforce pilot over any aircraft in the world and give you 4 to 1 odds.

So its a Boom and Zoomer?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:15:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Wes14
So its a Boom and Zoomer?

More like a cougar that pounced you and killed you that you never saw.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:16:58 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
yadayadayada, americans build crap, your-o-peeans build better planes, cars, wine, hammers, saws, motorcycles, bicycles, toothpicks, and the euro is better than the dollar.

it gets boring.

What Uro's are really pissed about is that the US never exports its own special-stash versions of military aircraft, which can kick the crap out of the exported versions.