Zimbabwe

[wooley]

I have been to South Africa a number of times, both on vacation and with work. It is a wonderful, beautiful country populated by some of the friendliest people I have ever met.

It is also the most crime ridden place I have ever been and the poverty has to be seen to be believed. It was after seeing the shanty towns in Johannesburg that I realized Louisiana wasn't Third-World after all. By African standards, its doing OK. But those sure as heck aren't high standards.

The crime statistics referred to above simply point out the presence of a police force that collects such statistics and a population not scared to report them.

[Holden McGroin]

I heard that Mugabe tried to buy yellowcake from Nigeria...

[Elfie]

Originally posted by john9001
""Crime continues to be a major problem in South Africa. According to a survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations, South Africa was ranked second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita, in addition to being ranked second for rape and first for rapes per capita. Total crime per capita is tenth out of the sixty countries in the data set. Nevertheless, crime has had a pronounced effect on society: many wealthier South Africans moved into gated communities, abandoning the central business districts of some cities for the relative security of suburbs. This effect is most pronounced in Johannesburg, although the trend is noticeable in other cities as well. Many emigrants from South Africa also state that crime was a big motivator for them to leave. Crime against the farming community has continued to be a major problem.""


they are doing real good.

I cleaned carpets for a living for a year or so. (Man that job sucked! lol) I cleaned for a South African family once. I couldn't quite place their accent, I guessed every country that spoke English (except South Africa) and then gave up.

At one point during the conversation I asked them, what made you decide to immigrate to the US. Their response was immediate, crime. I said....crime here is pretty bad as well, isn't that kinda like jumping from the frying pan into the fire? The wife said, yes there is crime in the US but you don't have to put bars over your windows to be safe at night. I think that just about says it all.

[Excel1]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I heard that Mugabe tried to buy yellowcake from Nigeria...

Maybe he already has

Proof?

But we can't be sure until the UN Cake Inspectors check under the icing

[Viking]

Originally posted by Dago
I wonder how the gun control laws in those nations compare with that in the USA?

With the exception of New Zealand the gun control in those nations are pretty lax. Somehow I get the feeling that most of those crime statistics are about "drunk and disorderly" charges in Finland and Denmark.

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Guess the predominant race of people living in the crime centers (cities) in the United States.

Human I should think.

Originally posted by Vulcan
Ever talked to anyone from South Africa? I have, a lot, because a lot of South African whites have emigrated to New Zealand fleeing the crime issues in South Africa.

Yup, but compared to the horror and depravity that prevail most places on the continent of Africa…

Originally posted by Viking
…they are doing rather well.