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Offline titanic3

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« on: June 24, 2007, 07:28:38 PM »
didn't the 110G had fixed upward firing 30mm in the side of the fuselage? and was it a Mk103 or Mk108?

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 02:33:27 AM »
I think you are thinking of the Schrage Musik.  Which IIRC(which I propably dont) was 4 20mm that fired straight up and was only used on some of the night fighters.  They would sneak up underneath enemy bombers and then blast away.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2007, 03:38:36 AM »
As geary said they were on the night fighters. I think they were the 110G-4 model. I cant remember which guns they used but a goggle search could tell you.



Edit: Googled: Different versions hade different guns. All were night fighters. The 110F-4 and the 110G-4 were able to mount 2x Mk108s firing upward. Others mounted MGFFs and Mg151/20s both in a duel pod firing upward.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2007, 09:07:18 AM »
Some of the G-4s used MG/FF, with 60-round drums that the tail gunner would change between attacks. Doesn't matter about ballistics (as compared to 151/20s), as they were often fired at extremely close range!

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2007, 11:04:54 AM »
This would be useless in game.

We have no night time, and if we did there is a big fat icon saying "I'm a 110 with 20mms sticking up to shoot you from below"
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2007, 11:35:49 AM »
Perhaps not entirely useless, but it would be a far far cry from its historical use, to be sure.

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2007, 11:55:13 AM »
From someone who hunts buffs I would LOVE it. Most of the time you can only make one safe pass on lancs, b26s, or Ki67s before the horde comes in and sit on thier 6 getting beat up jsut for one or two kills. Having a way to stay with them and away from thier lasers would be great, but we will never get it unless we get a RAF vs LW ToD.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2007, 05:19:18 PM »
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From someone who hunts buffs I would LOVE it. Most of the time you can only make one safe pass on lancs, b26s, or Ki67s before the horde comes in and sit on thier 6 getting beat up jsut for one or two kills. Having a way to stay with them and away from thier lasers would be great, but we will never get it unless we get a RAF vs LW ToD.


i found a use...

when your diving from the top down at an angle, the moment your pass the bomber, fire the cannons, if the bomber's damage, it finish the job. :aok

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 12:51:46 PM »
What about those times that you are trying to get below the merge and the other guy is trying his hardest to keep you in his sites?  Eventually he'll pass over you and BOOM! you nail him  :)  Would be a whole NEW way to HO.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 11:07:26 PM »
schrage musik was angled hence "schrage"  IIRC they were angled at 60 degrees slanted forward and the pilot had a special sight rigged up.  they used twin MG/FFs with the 60rd drums

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 01:35:22 AM »
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a whole NEW way to HO.


Heheheh, sig material right there.

It would mean we'd have to fit them to Spitfires though.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 02:39:33 AM »
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Heheheh, sig material right there.

It would mean we'd have to fit them to Spitfires though.


And LA7's et.c, et.c, et.c      hmmmmmm....  imagine a world where Lghey's had dorsal, ball, tail AND the 110's upward firing guns.....  :eek: