Lets add Air/Sea rescue to AH?

[Widewing]

Originally posted by 475FG Savlan

Oh, and heres the story of Pierce McKennon, the famous 4th Fighter Group Mustang pilot who landed in a field to pick up a buddy and bring him home, something we would never do in Aces High!

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3901/is_200608/ai_n17182182/pg_3

On November 20th, 1944, Jack Ilfrey landed his P-51D in a farm field and picked up a Mustang pilot knocked down by flak. Ilfrey himself had been shot down in his P-38J by flak shortly after D-Day (June 11th). He evaded capture with the help of a few French farmers who gave him civilian clothes and a note stating that he was a mute. Pressed into service by the Germans, Ilfrey actually assisted evacuating German wounded. A bit later, he found his way to the American lines in Normandy and was back with the 20th FG two days later.

Ilfrey was one of the pilots who were to ferry their P-38s from Britain to North Africa. During the flight, a wing shackle malfunctioned and he lost a drop tank. Low on fuel, he landed in Portugal. He was to be interned there. However, when asked to show the Portuguese pilots how to operate the P-38F, Ilfrey formulated a plan. The P-38 was already refueled. He showed them how to start the engines. Once both were running, firewalled the throttles, blowing several Portuguese pilots off the wing. Pulling the canopy closed, he took off diagonal to the runway and set course for Africa.

Upon arrival (navigated by compass alone), a State Department official was beside himself with angst. He wanted Ilfrey sent back at once. General Doolittle ignored the demand, stating that Ilfrey was the kind of resourceful pilot he needed. Doolittle was right. Ilfrey went on to be the first USAAF pilot to reach ace status against the Luftwaffe.

My regards,

Widewing

[bluenam]

i like looking for them were there is no radair so high teck plzz read this

[tedrbr]

And the home-schooled from Oregon have weighed in on the issue.



.... I'm outta here.  Would the last person to leave this thread please remember to turn off the lights.  Thank you.

[Uriel]

I really like the idea.. I know this sounds funny but their is more to war than combat.. like the supply runners ect.. I wish they had a scout plane option so that when they where in an area the enemy would be lit up on the countries radar.. and pilots would be scored on enemy detected per hour of flight.. this would not work under areas already lit up by radar

[bluenam]

but u guys make it like its a joke but it wasntr in real who cares about points  what if u r on free mutilplayer and u wont recence any huh what then neebs i like the sar

[Fulmar]

Originally posted by tedrbr
And the home-schooled from Oregon have weighed in on the issue.



.... I'm outta here.  Would the last person to leave this thread please remember to turn off the lights.  Thank you.

[slider0]

although i don't often post i read the post often,   I think that a pick up would be great if automated ...i.e. call may-day before bailing ... as most pilots wouldn't be able to radio from the ground/// late!

[USCH]

Originally posted by tedrbr



Also, the whole scenario is questionable in regards to WWII.  SAR did not come into it's own until Korea and Vietnam.  In WWII, you might be able to hope for a PBY or sub on lifeguard duty to pick up a few pilots int he PTO, but in the ETO, you went down, you had to hope you were over friendly territory, or find the Resistance to help you back to friendly lines, or you went to a POW camp.

Your buddies did not come riding out looking for you in a Jeep, or fly out, to land in a field to pick you up, and bring you back.  You did not risk additional pilots, and especially additional planes, for something like that in WWII.  Back then there were Armies and patrols and checkpoints and sentries and OPs and so forth covering the area on the ground.  Not the kind of thing you joyride through in a jeep.

And as to saving the kills?  You do realize that you retain partial perk points earned for successful bails and ditches, right?  All you loose is full perk credit and bonus for the flight and name in lights, and if you want perk points: get back into the air soonest will help you earn points.... far more than sitting on the ground for a hour pleading over text in country channel for a pick up and making everyone's squelch list will do for you.

And if it's the name in lights you are missing..... learn to land the durned plane!!!

Hmm i read ALOT (maybe an excessive amount) of WWII air war books and i would have to say this comment would piss a lot of britts in the air sea rescue off. as for landing aircraft to pick up a friend in a field we know that has happened on more than a few occasions. pople have had 2 guys in 109's P51's P47's P38's and im shure of more but i can prove at least them 4.

[Martyn]

Was the implication also that the army never spared a jeep or truck to run a downed fighter pilot back to rear areas? That doesn't make sense.

[Gumbeau]

You are missing some salient points in this argument.

The number one question for Hitech to answer is this......Will this add more money to the game?

I think there are several valid arguments that it would add new revenue.

The only question left to answer is whether or not it is worth the effort to code versus the potential revenue reward.

Only HTC can answer that question/take that gamble.

From my perspective as a player I think it is a great idea no matter the objections of nabobs of negativity like tedrbr.

It is an opportunity to add many interesting aircraft from the period as well as give event designers another tool to use.

I can envision creative uses of this feature in events that would be very interesting.

There will always be people who take advantage of the game and exploit loopholes in the code but that was equally true in real life.

Rescue attempts of downed flyers have always been dangerous propositions and many times real life 'griefers' were using the rescue as bait in a trap.

[Martyn]

It would make great marketing copy...