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« Reply #165 on: September 21, 2007, 10:52:53 AM »
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The second statement is a mixed bag for me. Yes, that are pretty pathetic, but they're also dangerous.  


Well........I think the only danger they hold is to the black race.
In any case if you can watch Sharpton open his mouth and not be laughing by the second sentence, you have me beat by a mile.
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« Reply #166 on: September 21, 2007, 11:04:19 AM »
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Well........I think the only danger they hold is to the black race.
In any case if you can watch Sharpton open his mouth and not be laughing by the second sentence, you have me beat by a mile.


I'd like to laugh, believe me.

The problem is that so long as sweetheartbags like him continue to have a following, the cycle will continue. That racially-motivated scholarships will continue. The double-standard admissions policies in colleges, graduate schools, will continue. The sense of 'society owes me' because my grandfather sat the back of the bus, will continue. It hurts us all, by extension, when we have to deal with appeasing these demands for hand-outs.

I hate to go back to this, but look at the Jews once again. Hardly do you hear of Jewish communities 'asking' for equality. They take what they know they need to get by, they work towards their goals, and they achieve what they want.

The result is that jews are often seen as aggressive, tricky and dishonest. But, frankly, all those accusations are just veiled terms of empowerment. Never do you hear a jew being called a kike because he was weak, lazy, or drowning in his own pity. Rarely do you see a bunch of Jews marching on Washington demanding equality. They take what they believe is theirs.

Blacks are no less capable of achieving what they need. Its just that instead of having your dad as your role model, dad is nowhere to be seen, while Jesse Jackson and his ilk are never at a loss for words reminding you that the white man still owes you. Over generations, this sort of indoctrination results in exactly what is going on.

Oh, and to add one last thing... Notice that the N word gets filtered, while kike (no less insulting), is not. Just another example of us walking on eggshells for the benefit of one formerly oppressed race, while treating the other like they're nobody special.
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« Reply #167 on: September 21, 2007, 12:34:59 PM »
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Leadpig,

But do you honestly think that 'black leaders' such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are helping the situation?

Seems to me that having 'black leaders' at all, flies in the face of achieving real equality, because so long as you have leaders whose main defining characteristic is their skin color, their cause will never be taken seriously, and their words and intentions will always remain suspect. Martin Luther King was the great exception, of course, and his shoes have yet to be filled. And yet I think that today, a white man could fill those shoes just the same.  

Those who seek colorblindness should lead by example, rather than demand colorblindness while sticking to their guns and nurturing their, dare I say, race-based interest groups such as the NAACP.

Do you not agree?


I don't think they are nessecarily helping the situation. Especially when they go around screaming racism, it seems, at everything that is happening. I think there are situations today of racism, (which is why programs like affirmative action exist, to even the playing field) to say anything else is foolhardy, and i think they are needed for those situations. To say racism doesn't exist and America is completely back to normal after slavery and the ensuing racism after it, is ludicrous.  I see a bunch of white guys running around today, speaking of something of which they know nothing about, so i wish they would just shut up. But to run around saying everthing is racism in the other direction is quite ludicrous as well and i don't believe in that either.

However i see more instances of racism against different groups, cultures and races today and i wish they would fight for them as well. I have also seen, some instances, by some very radical black groups of racism against whites, which i think is even more scary. I think to myself, "do we really wanna go through that again?"

America is still not back together after it's racist past. And i think organizations such as the NAACP and the ALCU are good fighters in that regime. I do however believe that their power is being abused wrongly, other than what should be there're basic function of, "Help everyone that is abused and in need of equal treatment."

I still think they are nessecary. When situations such as the man from Vidor, Texas, not too far from where i live actually, are dragged behind a truck for two miles, to the point where his head, arms and torso are dismembered. I think organizations such as the NAACP and the ALCU are needed for that, but nothing more, they are being over used i feel.The goal is equality not, equality taken and given back the other way.

Do these organizations need to go away? Yes. But untill no one is dragged behind a truck or anything else happens for racial reasons i don't think they should. There in you have the question, are they supporting racism or fighting it. However when they respond to events like the one i just mentioned and others like it, no. The racism existed, something happened, and they responded to it. They shouldn't go around, having an alleged racist event, and then have everybody show up for it. That's my point people are getting overzealous i think and they are getting abused. Hence, you have the suspicion and disbelief i hear in the voices of people in this forum, who believe they are abusing their power, that's because they are.

Al Sharpton i don't know much about him. But Jesse Jackson i respect. I respect him, because he was in thick of the civil rights movement when it wasn't popular in the terrible 50' and 60's. When a man could get shot for doing what he was doing, get hung, his house blown up, his family killed. He marched alongside Martin Luther King when a car backfiring would cause them both to duck in fear. He was also there when there was no money in it, and it was not profitable financially to them. I don't know what's going on with him now, but those things i mentioned above tells me his heart was and most likely still is in the right place.
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« Reply #168 on: September 21, 2007, 12:48:55 PM »
Jesse Jackson is a extortionist, he goes to big companies and tells them he will call for a boycott unless they "donate" money to his non-profit push/rainbow group.

he made Budweiser give his son a bud distributorship in a major city for only $50,000 and made bud loan his son the money to "buy" it.

Even the IRS is afraid to audit him.

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« Reply #169 on: September 21, 2007, 12:55:41 PM »
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Jesse Jackson is a extortionist, he goes to big companies and tells them he will call for a boycott unless they "donate" money to his non-profit push/rainbow group.

he made Budweiser give his son a bud distributorship in a major city for only $50,000 and made bud loan his son the money to "buy" it.

Even the IRS is afraid to audit him.


Where'd you get that information John? From your other white conservative racist friends.

Could be, i don't know, i wouldn't doubt it, but John you are not the best source of information for me to get that from. But i'll consider it.

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« Reply #170 on: September 21, 2007, 12:59:10 PM »
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Oh, and to add one last thing... Notice that the N word gets filtered, while kike (no less insulting), is not. Just another example of us walking on eggshells for the benefit of one formerly oppressed race, while treating the other like they're nobody special.


Now that's messed up, i'm hoping it's because of the popularity and  the promotion the N word has had and not, racism and disrespect. I fear it might be though.

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« Reply #171 on: September 21, 2007, 01:07:44 PM »
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Where'd you get that information John? From your other white conservative racist friends.
 


what makes you think I'm "white", for your information i am euro-american.

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« Reply #172 on: September 21, 2007, 01:09:34 PM »
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LOL ledpig... Ok... ya got me... a 70 IQ?   that would put me about average for your people by the bell curve now wouldn't it?

lazs


For my people???.... Who's my people Lazs??.. were all people as far as i'm concerned, so i don't know who you talking about.

If that's not an underground, genaralized, outed, racist statement i don't know what is?

Lasz is a closet racist everybody and he doesn't even know it, nobody tell him it's a secret ok.

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« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2007, 01:11:39 PM »
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what makes you think I'm "white", for your information i am euro-american.


That's the point i'm just guessing, not that it matters what color you are anyway. I was really responding to what you were saying.

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« Reply #174 on: September 21, 2007, 01:14:46 PM »
you inferred that i was a "white racist", calling me "white" is itself racist.

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« Reply #175 on: September 21, 2007, 01:31:20 PM »
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you inferred that i was a "white racist", calling me "white" is itself racist.


That's the point i was making a dumb, generalized, assumption, that doesn't have anything to do with anything, just like you were. I don't know any of those things, any more than you know if Jesse Jackson did those things. I was making a dumb blanketed assumption on you only with the little information i've seen you post here and elswhere. I don't know those things and i don't care. Now was i right at all or was i wrong? Let's see how stupid my assumptions were. I guess the only thing i was wrong about was the racist thing, right??

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« Reply #176 on: September 21, 2007, 01:59:49 PM »
Racism....
Big heady stuff for us bunch of low IQ Mongrels to deal with.
Let me give this a shot.
Racism is supported by this government (Don't need to list the numerous govt programs that favor one race over another)
Corporate Media ( Don't need to list the numerous magazines, cable channels and radio stations that are oriented to one race)
Prison population and violent crime statistics........ Anyone want to comment on that one? How about Public school drop out figures and stats anyone want to comment on that one? Jenna six?? Media event thats it nothing else really. Their are some obvious and horendous issues that plague the black population of this country. Should I vote for a man for president because he is black?? NO! I will vote for a woman or a man because of their abbillity to represent  all of us citizens fairly and honestly.
Not because of their skin color or sex or religion.

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« Reply #177 on: September 21, 2007, 02:36:37 PM »
ledpig....  where to start?

"Honestly Lasz, when you make statements like this it makes me wonder about you. Are you so simple that you cannot comprehend a situation below it's base effects and appearances. Can you not see beyond the numbers and charts and comprehend alll of the reasons."

Ah... soooo..  like a good little liberal or... simply a negro... you want me to ignore fact and go by "feelings"  it matters not to you what is really happening only what YOU PERCEIVE to be the reasons behind it... since neither of us can really know the reasons behind anything... all a person of reason is left with is the facts.


A good example is how you gleefully called me a racist for quoting a study.    The bell curve does show that some races score better in IQ than others...  I know you "feel" that this should not be true but... get over it.   Heck..... I aint all angry at the asians over it and in denial.

It is not racist to say that the negro race scores lower on IQ tests... it is however.... rude... more than rude... to say that someone, that you don't know anything about, has an IQ of 70

While I am not a racist for pointing out facts...you are most certainly rude and childish for your statements...

black people commit most of the violent crime in this country.. they have the highest illigitamacy rates and they commit half the homicides.    they are 7 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.   these are all facts.   I really don't care what you "feel" is the reason... it just needs to stop... it is not whites that are making you a victim but yourselves.

I have no sympathy for someone who isolates himself with dress and culture and speech and then cries like a little baby about how isolated he is and how unfair it all is.

You do seem smart enough that you don't buy totally into all the excuses and dogma but not smart enough to dump the liberal hand wringing and speculating and... peer pressure.

I would not like to spend much time around you I would think.  It would be boring and frustrating.

lazs

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« Reply #178 on: September 21, 2007, 02:39:43 PM »
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Racism....

Racism is supported by this government (Don't need to list the numerous govt programs that favor one race over another)
Corporate Media ( Don't need to list the numerous magazines, cable channels and radio stations that are oriented to one race)
Prison population and violent crime statistics........ Anyone want to comment on that one? How about Public school drop out figures and stats anyone want to comment on that one? ..


Good stuff except for this part, ever care to delve deeper into why those reasons exist. And no it's not all because one race  blames everyone. Anyone care to explain how it got that way in the first place before all these blaming retards started.

America still isn't equal that's why all those programs exist.  You know why it's harder to find a black doctor, airline pilot, lawyer? The previous generations were suffering from the effects of what happened and before.

My Grandfather was born into one of the most races periods in history, the 1900's into the 1960's. It just started to change then. Blacks couldn't vote as late as i believe 1955. You can imagine if you can't vote you'd be pretty poor and have no representation. His father was the son of a freed slave, My mother was born into segregation, black folks couldn't really hold jobs above menial labor, even if they tried alot weren't allowed to because of America's racist ways. To find a black with a good job on average was pretty unheard of till the 1970's. Things were just from beginning to change from slavery by then. So you have 1865, the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation to about 1965 to 1970 when things really started to change for the better. Before then rampant poverty existed not always but mostly to the racist ways of America.

Lyndon Johnson really started equalizing the law books so that blacks were legally seen as equals in 1965. So you have one domino tips another domino tips another. So the blacks before were climbing out of the race inspired poverty of his father, and his father. See where this is going the folks living today are still effected by all that. It would go faster if they stopped blaming everybody and got up now though.

1970 wasn't that long ago... Another thing alot of you miseducated folks seem to think the Emancipation Proclamation was a magic wand that wiped it all out and equalized everything at once.... wrong. It took about 100 years after that for America to get her slow arnold in gear and get movin after that. And even then she had to be downright prodded. Then you have the lingering social and economic impact of all that and the lady justice is still trying to right her scales after that catyclism.

Most kids today (old ones never got it) ain't educated about all this and i see it now.

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« Reply #179 on: September 21, 2007, 02:55:11 PM »
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