Author Topic: FDR and the Devil (Read 2137 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2007, 02:22:11 PM »

That's the only thing he did right. But it's probably the only capitalistic thing he did. Every other policy he implemented was the socialist answer to a market crash. Every single policy, while it should have, in the communist's and socialist's eyes, pulled the country out of the depression exponentially made it worse.

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2007, 02:22:20 PM »

boroda.. yep.. laser beat me to it but... yeah.. I think you are a commie too.

If you vote for a commie you are a commie.

lazs

McFarland · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:08:33 PM »

I hate to see this anyone in this country call Franklin Delano Roosevelt the worst president ever, and anyone that does has no right to call themselves an American. He ranks in our top ten presidents, beside Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, and a few others. He pulled us out of the Great Depression, helped the British fight off the Germans to keep them away from us, was very good at political matters and settling the disputes that would have broken apart the Big Three, thus losing the war. Anybody that calls FDR our worst or second worst president has absolutely no intelligence of what he did and what he was. I sincerely hope you find a very good doctor, and find one quick, because there is something seriously wrong with you that may cause your untimely demise.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:10:54 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
I hate to see this anyone in this country call Franklin Delano Roosevelt the worst president ever, and anyone that does has no right to call themselves an American. He ranks in our top ten presidents, beside Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, and a few others. He pulled us out of the Great Depression, helped the British fight off the Germans to keep them away from us, was very good at political matters and settling the disputes that would have broken apart the Big Three, thus losing the war. Anybody that calls FDR our worst or second worst president has absolutely no intelligence of what he did and what he was. I sincerely hope you find a very good doctor, and find one quick, because there is something seriously wrong with you that may cause your untimely demise.

McFarland, you just keep getting better and better.

McFarland · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:19:31 PM »

FDR gave us jobs, he saved us from starving. To call him our worst president is to call yourself un-American in the same breath. I would like to see you come to East Tennessee and announce that out loud. You won't get to the state line alive, that's a promise. FDR kept the Germans from using Britain as a jump off point to take Canada and America. He kept the Big Three together. He brought us out of a depression. There was a reason he was elected four times. If you aren't smart enough to figure it out, I sure can't help you. And I highly doubt anyone can.

Airscrew · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:28:24 PM »

I hate to see this anyone in this country call Franklin Delano Roosevelt the best president ever, and anyone that does has no right to call themselves an American. He ranks in our lowest ten presidents, besides Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter and a few others. He sold our souls to the highest bidders, compromised our country and used a world conflict to get us out of the Great Depression. Sure, WE helped the British fight off the Germans to keep them away from us, was very good at manipulating people for political matters and settling the disputes that would have broken apart the Big Three, thus losing the war. Anybody that calls FDR our Best or second Best president has absolutely no intelligence of what he did and what he was. I sincerely hope you find a very good doctor, and find one quick, because there is something seriously wrong with you that may cause your untimely demise.

Stang · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:29:07 PM »

The movie Pearl Harbor made him seem like a good President though?

Xargos · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:32:09 PM »

Give, give, give is all some people care about, instead of earning it. FDR and Wilson are two presidents who did the most harm to this country.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:38:58 PM »

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It's hard to believe that so many people hate the greatest leader that their country ever had.

I say it not only because he was a member of the Great Three and was probably much closed as an "ally" then sir Winston, but because of what he did with the US after the depression. We badly need such a leader now. In the 30s JVS didn't have time, now it looks like we don't have to hurry, so we need FDR. Damn, JVS will be better then the current regime in Russia, anyone can be better, anyone who does something!

They're still upset Wendell and Dewey lost. Talk about holding grudges.

He did what needed to be done at the time to raise our country out of the gutter we had found ourselves in. Without him and Lincoln before him, our country wouldn't be what it is today.

But we all have our opinions and none of your opinions are any more valid than mine. *shrug*

ack-ack

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2007, 04:45:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
They're still upset Wendell and Dewey lost. Talk about holding grudges.

He did what needed to be done at the time to raise our country out of the gutter we had found ourselves in. Without him and Lincoln before him, our country wouldn't be what it is today.

But we all have our opinions and none of your opinions are any more valid than mine. *shrug*

ack-ack

Our country today is a socialist infested rat hole because of what FDR did.

FDR and Lincoln had the good fortune of being in the right place at the right time. It wasn't them that solved the problems, but external people and events.

While they didn't solve the problems, they clearly made them worse.

Arlo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2007, 07:43:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Our country today is a socialist infested rat hole because of what FDR did.

FDR and Lincoln had the good fortune of being in the right place at the right time. It wasn't them that solved the problems, but external people and events.

While they didn't solve the problems, they clearly made them worse.

Rhetoric unrings bells so well. Ahem

Boroda · « **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2007, 07:59:24 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
boroda.. yep.. laser beat me to it but... yeah.. I think you are a commie too.

If you vote for a commie you are a commie.

You probably don't watch the parliament elections in Russia. With comrade Putin being the number one, two and three (just like Father, Son and Holy Spirit) in a federal list of United Russia. I respected him, but I never voted for him. Now he have lost my respect by covering up this giant trade-union of thieves, the United Russia.

Commies are the only opposition that has a chance to get into parliament. And now we hear rumors that they'll probably be canceled from elections. If it will happen, like they did with Rodina party on Moscow city council elections 2 years ago - I'll be the first to wave the red flag.

Communist Party now is just a bunch of morons, same crooks as everybody else, but they are the only force that doesn't praise Putin and will probably try to make some problems to Big Thieves.

BTW, doesn't an idea of "voting for commies" contradict what you have been told before?

Do you have an option of voting for Communists in your so-called "free world"?

Neubob · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2007, 08:10:04 PM »

Hey Boroda, how do you feel about FDR turning back the German refugee ships as part of the isolationist policy?

Do you think that was a virtuous thing to do?

Saxman · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2007, 08:12:51 PM »

Yay! More party-line opposition bashing!! What would the O-club be without it? It's like two babies in a sandbox screaming over the same toy.

*turns a hose on the conservative and liberal hardliners both*

Boroda · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2007, 08:14:14 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Our country today is a socialist infested rat hole because of what FDR did.

FDR and Lincoln had the good fortune of being in the right place at the right time. It wasn't them that solved the problems, but external people and events.

While they didn't solve the problems, they clearly made them worse.

I have read several books about FDR, so I may be a little bit biased, I admit it, and I will praise FDR as a member of the Big Three. And I am from a country that saw a crisis much worse then a Depression in last 15 years.

But can you show me any study, "what if" or even any list of what he have done wrong and what had to be done instead?

Just like: "FDR did so and so, he was wrong because of this, and doing that could be much better".

IMHO "capitalism" is effective only when you a) base your prosperity on robbing others (social groups or countries/colonies), b) don't have an emergency situation that needs urgent solutions. It pretty much explains the current relative prosperity of the Golden Billion. And this prosperity is exaggerated, believe me.

It's funny, but Wilson and FDR were the two men who literally made America a world power, as it is now, from a provincial rogue country into a global player.